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Offline Jim_Ewing

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Carefully reasoned analysis of the red states
« on: November 09, 2004, 04:42:27 PM »
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This is really damned funny.  Too bad it's all true.  Don't forget to read the links.

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Re: Carefully reasoned analysis of the red states
« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2004, 04:45:08 PM »
RATS Al,  you need to lift the language censors on this part of the board.

you'll have to type it in.

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Re: Carefully reasoned analysis of the red states
« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2004, 05:34:45 PM »
all automated word censors have been removed. that said, if things get offensive or out of hand I will take action.

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Re: Carefully reasoned analysis of the red states
« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2004, 06:39:34 PM »
that is so good...

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Re: Carefully reasoned analysis of the red states
« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2004, 03:44:12 AM »
Too damn funny, pretty much sums up my feelings since last Tuesday. Have you guys seen the IQ breakdown of Bush and Kerry states? To hell with letting old wounds heal, as long as some people are unable to recognize the meaning of compromise I will continue to mock them and hope for their fall from grace. Definately good for a chuckle!

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Re: Carefully reasoned analysis of the red states
« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2004, 06:30:56 AM »
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Have you guys seen the IQ breakdown of Bush and Kerry states?


I would really like to see that.  Could someone post a link?

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Re: Carefully reasoned analysis of the red states
« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2004, 07:30:18 AM »
Well, a very good friend of mine that teaches statistics wrote this to me:


"It fits with my prejudices, so I *want* to believe it.
As a statistician, though, I'd have to point out a
problem called the "ecological fallacy":  assuming
that relationships that hold true at an aggregate
level (such as states) also apply at the individual
level (people within those states).  That is, are
Kerry voters smarter than Bush?  It's theoretically
possible that the lowest IQs in the red states all
belong to Kerry voters, who pulled their state
averages down.  So you'd need data on individuals
to rule out this possibility."

But what is maybe more compelling and statistically sound is this:
http://www.pipa.org/OnlineReports/Pres_Election_04/Report10_21_04.pdf

If the information in this report is accurate, and I believe it is, this country is in serious trouble.

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Re: Carefully reasoned analysis of the red states
« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2004, 07:33:06 AM »
Woops, that last post was in regards to the IQ thing which you will find here:

http://chrisevans3d.com/files/iq.htm

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Re: Carefully reasoned analysis of the red states
« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2004, 11:25:07 AM »
damn you guys are sore loosers....if you really want to see red vs blue check out http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/vote2004/countymap.htm
The main blue areas are metro areas, Detroit, LA, Atlanta, Boston except for Vermont.
But the best part is that the January concert featuring Pearl Jam/Bruce Springsteen/Bonnie Raitt/Jackson Browne/Dixie Chicks/John Mellencamp et all, hosted by Dan Rather,Michael Moore and sooo many others
HAS BEEN CANCELLED ;D
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Re: Carefully reasoned analysis of the red states
« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2004, 12:08:31 PM »
that is a disturbing image... but what's your point about the main blue areas being metro?  Other than that's were the most Americans live?
« Last Edit: November 10, 2004, 12:09:06 PM by DLottmann »

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Re: Carefully reasoned analysis of the red states
« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2004, 12:08:54 PM »
I like the map of the county voting patterns.  It confirms something I've long suspected: smart people live in the city, while the short-bus riders live in the styx.  Rural areas do, in fact, account for 95% of the short-bus fleet of this country!  ;D

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Re: Carefully reasoned analysis of the red states
« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2004, 12:15:47 PM »
On a more serious note, I think Dman has hit the nail on the head.  The map is really a reflection of population density, and not much else.  You have to figure that some of the red counties in the Western states could have total populations less than 5,000.  What's voter registration in the average population?  25%?  So at least 626 people in Cattle County, N. Dakota voted for W, assuming their voter registration is equal to the national average.  That doesn't seem too representative of the country as a whole to me...

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Re: Carefully reasoned analysis of the red states
« Reply #12 on: November 11, 2004, 07:34:53 AM »
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damn you guys are sore loosers....D


And this is suppose to change my opinions, how?  "Sore loser", is that the best you've got?
The election of a president isn't a baseball game.

If I am a sore loser I'll stop being one when Bush admits to his mistakes, or mistatements, and our soldiers and the Iraqi civilians stop dying.

Sore loser, give me a break.

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Re: Carefully reasoned analysis of the red states
« Reply #13 on: November 11, 2004, 07:54:03 AM »
Funny, from the USA today county by county i notice northern NH went blue!  That's surprising since I generally consider that area to be "conservative".  I'm proud to see that 93% of vermont went for Kerry, rural or not.  


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Re: Carefully reasoned analysis of the red states
« Reply #14 on: November 11, 2004, 11:35:27 PM »
I think that the disturbing thing about the map is exactly what everyone has been saying, that the rural areas are all red and the metro areas are all blue.  

How come the democrats cannot connect with the rural folks. ???