O.K. ccclimber,you do not respect my opinion as it's "buteaucratic bs", but your impassioned plea for us all to buy a pass so we climbers don't screw up the "relationship" is right on? First, most of the climbing in the Whites is accessed on State of N.H. lands, that's Cathedral, Whitehorse, Crawford Notch and Cannon.You can take your vanload of poor Gunkies there for free. The principle rock climbing area accessed from a fee lot is Sundown. Climbing exists at various other areas on Mt. Washington, off the Kanc and some other crags that depend on fee lots but The USFS does not know when you buy a pass or choose not to whether you are a climber,hiker or fisherman so I fail to see how not buying a pass would affect the relationship the WMNF has with climbers.Your concept that we have to quake in our shoes about it does not match mine. The land belongs to the people of the United States, and the federal employees work for us. What gets done with the land is up to us. You could go to some of the meetings for the revision of the WMNF master plan,as I have, but I am sure that's just more" buteaucratic bs".Sounds like you won't mind when Disney has the franchise, it costs 50.00 to get in, 25.00 to park and there is some guy in a costume to check your harness at the base before you are allowed to toprope Stilleto, cause you know it's "providing jobs".As far as improvements, I haven't seen any but I'm not much on needing interpretive signs, interpretive centers or building bigger parking lots at Rocky Gorge since the natural attraction is already maxxed out. Once Disney is here they will have a solution I'm sure. . Fact is the fees bring in less than a million$ and they spend a lot of that collecting them and patrolling the lots writing tickets etc.Taxes and liability are real issues to non government land owners,even if you do not understand that, and the Access fund does a good job of looking out for climbers interests, your 20.00 would be better spent there.