Thanks Mark. That means a lot.
I think there are two points open for discussion here.
1) fixed draws
...left up indefinitely because these routes are steep and overhanging, and therefore hard to clean on lower or on toprope.
2) project draws
...left up for a weekend or a couple weeks, because someone had a really hard time getting the draws up, and wants to try to send the route the next day.
I think Mark was talking about fixed draws
, and I can understand his point, although I take full advantage of the fixin's
What could be done to make these draws blend in a bit more? For example, if the draws are dark gray does that make them a little more low profile?
I didn't know that about quick links. I couldn't agree more about glue ins.
I also think we have to do something about the manky draws that have been dangling in the snow and sun for years and years with no attention. I recently changed out the webbing on Suburban, but that leaves 20 other routes with bleached draws.
The draws on Social and lulu were project draws
. By project, I mean a personal project, not a new line. If someone has left their draws up, they are saying, "go ahead and have a go on my draws." They are trusting you not to steal them until they get back and send their project. The people who left draws on social and lulu weren't trying to fix the route. they just wanted another burn the next day. I don't see the problem with this.