om, let me try to respond to your points one at a time...
"The problem was that you were excusing the act of stealing using that high moral stance of yours. Stealing is stealing."
well, i'm not sure exactly what happened, but the way LTCSB describes it, he pulled bad pins, and others that were next to natural anchors. is that stealing? maybe... not really sure what happened. but like i asked Al, is it stealing pins if theoretically the pins are obvious to everyone to have been placed wrongly, or is it cleaning up the cliff?
"The talk was about creating a 30' runout on the beginners training route. That's a bit different."
well is it really a beginners route if there is a 30' runout? is it right to pound in a pin to relieve the runout? if that pin was the only gear available, and the pin and placement was in good condition, then i think it should have stayed. the damage was already done. but when it loosens up naturally, don't replace it. let the cliff go back to a natural state. extreme? i don't think so. i think it's more extreme to pound the pin in to begin with. what's so extreme about leaving a cliff alone? that's called passive.
"Responsibility is not one of the things people are willing to accept. Why does it surprise you that climbing community is changing too?"
well if you are acknowledging a problem, then why excuse it, or say something like, that's just how it is? that may be how it is, but i don't have to accept it, and i can try to change it. also, i don't think it's logical to excuse one wrong with another.
okey doke.. i'm finally outta here. have a good weekend everybody, and try to restrain yourselves if you plan on drilling holes into the rock. go find some nice trad route to enjoy, and leave the cliff the way you found it.