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Offline scott44

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winter sleeping pads
« on: March 06, 2008, 01:54:35 PM »
what advice can you give on sleeping pads in the presidentials in winter?
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Re: winter sleeping pads
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2008, 02:23:01 PM »
dunno...I still use my old Thermarest. is there anything new out there?

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Re: winter sleeping pads
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2008, 03:17:43 PM »
A nice warm bed at home with a girlfriend, or even better, a bear rug in front of a fire.
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Re: winter sleeping pads
« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2008, 05:26:54 PM »
I used to double up a cheap closed cell foam therma-rest (3/4 length), with a full length mid-grade self inflating thermarest. A few years ago I decided to drop some $ an invest in one of the newer ones out there and got one of these:

http://www.ems.com/catalog/product_detail_square.jsp?STYLE_GROUP%3C%3East_id=1408474396003153&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302161011&bmUID=1204842301786

These pack up very small, and are plenty insulating on their own so as to not need the closed cell foam pad. I use it year round from camping on snow to in the desert and love it. It also resists my dogs sharp claws very well!

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Re: winter sleeping pads
« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2008, 05:28:30 PM »
Oh ya, I have the regular length, but if you are an ounce counter you can get by with the 3/4 and use your empty backpack to insulate your lower legs and feet.

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Re: winter sleeping pads
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2008, 06:40:33 PM »
A few of my heavy packing partners have had a laugh at this, but I go with the 3/4 length and the backpack under my legs too.  I think it works fine.  I save the 3.5" full length pad I have for car camping.

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Re: winter sleeping pads
« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2008, 07:27:28 PM »
They are spendy and a little on the heavy side but check out the down filled Outdoor Research pads.

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Re: winter sleeping pads
« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2008, 07:53:39 PM »
anyone try the Big Agnes ones?

http://www.ems.com/catalog/product_detail_square.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524442591836&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302161011&bmUID=1204851090479

just curious. FWIW I use a 3/4 for backpacking and a full size for most other uses. of course the wife insists on a full size air mattress for car camping.  :P  I must admit it's nice when we go to Acadia or the like.

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Re: winter sleeping pads
« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2008, 09:13:45 PM »
I use one of the Thremarest #4 pads (I think, it's golden) for just a single winter night. You feel the cold and you might wake in the night, but it's just heavy enough. For a few nights out I use a combination of both backpack, innner backpack pad, gold Thermarest, and occasionally my 3/4 pad.

The first set up with just full length pad has taken me on numerous Gulf of Slides overnights, Rainer, Bolivia, Montana, Vermont, Italy, Belize, I'm forgetting something. Any way you get the point it all depends on how long and your comfort rating. I like the colder pad, wakes me earlier, sometimes, depends on the pisco sours.

Now if we're talking car camping, I like to bring a bunch of those heavy Mexican throw rugs, two pads, two zippered bags, and the smoothe talking Carlo Rossi(blow up pillow).

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Re: winter sleeping pads
« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2008, 12:02:36 AM »
anyone try the Big Agnes ones?

http://www.ems.com/catalog/product_detail_square.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524442591836&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302161011&bmUID=1204851090479

just curious. FWIW I use a 3/4 for backpacking and a full size for most other uses. of course the wife insists on a full size air mattress for car camping.  :P  I must admit it's nice when we go to Acadia or the like.

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No, but almost 4lbs for a sleeping pad??? I would definitely say this one is for car camping, not winter mountaineering...

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Re: winter sleeping pads
« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2008, 07:54:00 AM »
No, but almost 4lbs for a sleeping pad...

oops, good point. didn't notice that. interesting that the Thermarest still seems to own that market. room for some real competition there. who's good at writing business plans?  ::)  venture capital here we come...

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Re: winter sleeping pads
« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2008, 09:38:06 AM »
http://www.mec.ca/Products/product_detail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524442094579&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302701645&bmUID=1205760796977

When I look at the R-rating compared to the weight, this doesn't look great, but I have a few friends that have these and at full length they are still light. Every morning after we camp out it seems to radiate heat for quite a while, but that may just be because I use a z-rest all year long.

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Re: winter sleeping pads
« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2008, 02:22:54 PM »
I have a thermarest Prolite 4, 3/4 length (1.5" thick), that I use for light, quick and unbulky affairs. Whichever backpack I am using I remove the frame sheet or stock back pad and replace it with my folded up thermarest - works great and doubles as an emergency pad inside my pack during the day. I'll usually put my backpack, rope, anything underneath my feet to complete the missing 1/4 length.

For more days out and basecamping where I won't have to carry it all all the time I'll also take my closed cell thermarest Ridgerest (the roll up green one) in addition to my Prolite 4.

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Re: winter sleeping pads
« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2008, 10:27:52 PM »
I've never been a Thermarest fan. to sliperly a sleeping surface for a squirmer like me...I always ended up off of it when I woke.

For mountaineering,  like on Rainer I roll with a 3/4 Ridgerest pad and a Mountain Hardware lounge chair/pad that doubles as a chair and a sleeping pad..  Can't remember exact model name, but it is the shorter, thinner model.  They have quite a variety of lengths and  thicknesses.

For multi day climbs, like in the Alps in winter I use a 3/4 Ridgerest cut down by 1/3.  It folds over and contours nicely inside my Wild Things Rice Pack.  I use my pack and the ropes to insulate my legs and feet.