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AMC trail crew
« on: August 17, 2009, 11:16:11 am »
Took the new trail yesterday from the top of 5.8 crag to bonsai - wiameah junction. last weekend it went over a small ledge, now the ledge has been blasted and broken up! What a mess! The forest circus has hired them to do trail work and so far all i have seen is destruction. Why the hell did they find it nescessary to break up that ledge that a 4 year old could have negotiated. What a bunch of hackers!

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Re: AMC trail crew
« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2009, 05:38:36 pm »
If I had access to explosives, I'd blow stuff up too.
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Re: AMC trail crew
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2009, 07:53:39 am »
Right!
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Re: AMC trail crew
« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2009, 11:25:38 am »
Took the new trail yesterday from the top of 5.8 crag to bonsai - wiameah junction. last weekend it went over a small ledge, now the ledge has been blasted and broken up! What a mess! The forest circus has hired them to do trail work and so far all i have seen is destruction. Why the hell did they find it nescessary to break up that ledge that a 4 year old could have negotiated. What a bunch of hackers!

You are directly on the path to becoming friends with the governing body.

Maybe you should accuse their kids of spitting on sidewalks and clubbing baby seals so that we can put all climbers in a positive light.  Because, you know, no one from the Forest Service reads internet forums, ever.

Tard.

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Re: AMC trail crew
« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2009, 11:26:48 am »
Really BP, has it come to this.
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Re: AMC trail crew
« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2009, 11:32:00 am »
Whoa.

I didn't think that they really needed to blast that ledge. It was just the right size and a natural weakness to get through that spot. IN FACT my three-year-old daughter navigated it without any problems several times this season. The only thing that I could have asked for was a hand line or something through there.

Blasting... such a perminant scar where, IMHO, it really wasn't needed.

I support the trailbuilding efforts. And I'm hoping to see the handicap accessable trail when it is completed.

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Re: AMC trail crew
« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2009, 11:35:20 am »
Really BP, has it come to this.

So you advocate pissing off the Forest Service so that gym rats can access rocks?

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Re: AMC trail crew
« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2009, 01:37:40 pm »
Handicap gymrats apparently
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Re: AMC trail crew
« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2009, 04:57:41 pm »
Whoa.

I didn't think that they really needed to blast that ledge. It was just the right size and a natural weakness to get through that spot. IN FACT my three-year-old daughter navigated it without any problems several times this season. The only thing that I could have asked for was a hand line or something through there.

Blasting... such a perminant scar where, IMHO, it really wasn't needed.

I support the trailbuilding efforts. And I'm hoping to see the handicap accessable trail when it is completed.

Thankyou Epoch, If you could not negotiate that the way it was you should be in a nursing home sharing a room with BP! Not out climbing! What a waste of money.

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Re: AMC trail crew
« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2009, 08:44:54 pm »
Maybe they have some idea to make it accessible in winter, when that ledge becomes an iceflow. They way it was worked to a certain extant, but I know I always had to clean debris off of the natural steps and whack ice off of them at times. The FS mandate I think is to make a trail that accommodates more traffic and will hold up without constant upkeep. It is supposed to be so good that people won't still go up the road.. Let's give the AMC a chance to finish what they are doing before nit picking every move. I know if people looked at stuff I do half way into the job, they could find plenty of things to grumble about... work in progress people.. a lot better than the years of nothing I think


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Re: AMC trail crew
« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2009, 07:00:56 am »
Don't do it, Mark!  I swear, the place is totally rigged with booby traps!

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Re: AMC trail crew
« Reply #11 on: October 14, 2009, 03:43:34 pm »
I made it back to Rumney this past weekend and checked out the trailwork. I thought the crew was doing a great job. here is a view of the steps leading up the hillside towards Armed & Dangerous:



The "blasting" and "destruction" people mentioned earlier was a little bit of ledge removed so a person with a big pack could negotiate the natural steps a little easier without  feeling like they are going to get bumped off. It really was very minor and a good idea I think. It is a little raw looking since it is brand new, but give it some time to weather and it will look fine. I was a little surprised that the blue flagged trail from the small parking lot to the base of these steps was not cut out and graded yet, as a big point is to get people right off and not trooping up the road. There is an obvious need for signes too. I'll see if the RCA can make suggestions for these as we know the correct names for things, and maybe a member can even make them up if the FS is too busy.

The only issue I saw was where the trail goes from these steps and traverses across where the Venus stream flows in the spring time. We had situated raised flat stones to act as stepping stones to keep people above the water. These seemed to have been removed to make the trail smoother, but it will thereby become a riverbed in wet weather. Obviously, some new raised stone steps will have to be made across this drainage area.

Much work is still needed, which I think is planned for next year, but just the addition of the steps is a huge help.
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Re: AMC trail crew
« Reply #12 on: October 14, 2009, 04:34:33 pm »
looks good!
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Re: AMC trail crew
« Reply #13 on: October 14, 2009, 08:09:12 pm »
I think dynamite has its place in Rumney.  ;D
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Re: AMC trail crew
« Reply #14 on: October 14, 2009, 08:25:32 pm »
It's all your fault, Tom. You put up Peer Pressure
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The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbrait