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Offline haircity

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Climbing Trivia Contest
« on: November 12, 2003, 06:04:08 PM »
OK, all you climbing historians (yes, this means you Jeff), enough angst, already.

Fun time.  ;)


Question 1:

How, when and at what area did the term "beta" start?
(Bonus: and by what "group"?)

Question 2:

What is probably the most famous and controversial chop-job done on a U.S. bolt route?

Question 3 (easy):

What is the real (original) name of Camp 4?

Question 4:

What was the first 5.11?

Question 5:

What was the first shoe with "sticky" rubber? (trick)

Question 6:

What famous US climber loved red wine...lots?

Question 7:

Which famous climber was the most notorious drunk?

Question 8:

What famous US climber kept a low profile but climbed and did first ascents with probably every other US famous climber (and has the beta on every route)?

Question 9:

Which two climbers were involved in probably the most famous climber fist-fight? Over what?

Question 10:

What accident happened in Yosemite that instantly enriched the oportunistic locals?




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Re: Climbing Trivia Contest
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2003, 05:33:22 AM »
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Question 7:
Which famous climber was the most notorious drunk?



Hmmm... I'll choose D all of the above

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Re: Climbing Trivia Contest
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2003, 05:39:54 AM »
I'm going to jump in before someone gives me the answers. Good one, Fred.

1. "Beta" came from the Gunks, termed for "Betamax", Sony's defunct video system. "Sawicky for the jug" - mid-80s by Jersey Jeff Gruenberg, Jack Mileski & crew.

2. "Most famous & controversial" - you have to be kidding!! Let's see, probably you're looking for Royal Robbins chopping of Harding's "Wall of the Early Morning Light". Around here it would be the chopping of "Room with a View". Or Thin Air...

3. Uh, Camp 4?

4. The FIRST 5.11?!?! Probably in Dresden, E. Germany. Around here it would be Lichen Delight, I think. One of the finest pitches on Cathedral, BTW.

5. Maybe EBs compared to what else was available, but truthfully Fires were the first sticky shoe.

6. Easy - Michael Hartrich. Oh, Warren Harding, too.

7. Same as answer 6. No, not Michael.

8. Hmmm, Paul Boissoneault? Steve Larson?

9. Kauk & Bachar, over poaching a new route. Or stealing a woman (more likely).

10. An airplane loaded with bud (not to be confused with Budweiser, which pretends to be beer) crashed in the high country. All the dirtbags in Camp 4 were sporting new stuff....
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Re: Climbing Trivia Contest
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2003, 05:49:13 AM »
Some knowledge, some guesses:

1.  Jack Mileski, Gunks, after the Betamax (early form of VHS tape).  Group would be Mileski, Gruenberg, Freeman.

2.  Up for debate, I would say Wall of Early Morning Light.

3.  Sunnyside?  although it was named that in the early 80's-90's, it had been Camp 4 previous to that.  

4.  

5.  The Boreal Fire was the first with truly sticky rubber, but I'm sure the PA was an advancement compared to what was previously available.

6.  Warren Harding

7.  Besides myself???   Hmm.   I forget which one it was, but the welshman (patey, Whillans?) who ended every story with the tag line, "so I hit 'im".

8.  You got me there.  Chuck Pratt?

9.  There also.  

10.  Plane of Ganja crashing in a high mountain lake outside of the Valley.  Go up with an empty backpack, come down with a full one, return to Camp 4 a few days later driving a Porsche...

(Added this line to say there were no other posts when I started replying)
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Re: Climbing Trivia Contest
« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2003, 07:45:45 AM »
Most answers have been given already - I will venture Beckey for #8 although I'm not sure how low a profile he has kept.

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Re: Climbing Trivia Contest
« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2003, 09:02:45 AM »
Question #8:

  Although there could be many guys who qualify for this answer, my best guess would be an oldie but goodie - Bob Anderson.  Every time I read about standard-setting climbs in the 70's or 80's, it seemed like Mr. Anderson's name was there on the list.

Haircity - good crack about George Dubya, though!
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Re: Climbing Trivia Contest
« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2003, 09:38:23 AM »
Hmm. I guess a few of these had multiple right answers although I was thinking of some particulars and a couple of replies were on-target.

Hints / Clarification

#4 a 5.11 in the U.S.
#7 knew the Tetons well.
#8 Lots of alpine firsts in the US and Canada


-Fred ;D

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Re: Climbing Trivia Contest
« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2003, 09:47:46 AM »
More hints

#4 was in the Gunks (I think)
#5 There was an EB-era shoe that made the FA of Hall on Mirrors possible.

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Re: Climbing Trivia Contest
« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2003, 11:11:48 AM »
Answers (the one's I had in-mind). Some I'm sure are debatable.

#1 In the Gunks, Vulgarian members as-outlined
#2 Rob was more accurate on this one but I was thinking Wings of Steel.
#3 Sunnyside (but it was Camp 4 before)
#4 Foops in the Gunks (??)
#5 The EB Contact
#6 Harding
#7 Petzoldt (but this could be debated)
#8 Beckey
#9 Kauk / Bachar
#10 Plane full of weed crashes in Toulomne

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Re: Climbing Trivia Contest
« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2003, 04:19:08 PM »
At the time that robbins chopped it it was called the Dawn Wall. Sticky shoes- Calmas?  bacar was a fiesty one. My girlfriend and her partner inadvertantly dropped a rope on bacar while rapping. Pissed him off so he soloed the rest of the way up to the rap station and punched out her partner. Neither one of them spoke much english so they were a bit supprised and confused by the american hospitality ;D  the guy he punched out was member of swiss olympic judo team and was nice enough to take the shots rather than pitch  bacar off to the valley floor :o  My guess is it is not real smart to start a fistfight with someone who is roped in several hundred feet off the deck when you arn't.  
More trivia; #1 Which teton climber offed himself after a fistfight at a post climbing party.
#2 Whast kind of stew did Chiounard make at the teton basecamp with game that he shot with a.22
#3 In the sixtys. What was the campsite/shelter that the big dogs lived in at the base of the Tetons.

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Re: Climbing Trivia Contest
« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2003, 05:08:23 PM »
Hmm. For JH officiandos....

#1 ????
#2 Marmot?
#3 Bar B-C?

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Re: Climbing Trivia Contest
« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2003, 06:22:49 PM »
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At the time that robbins chopped it it was called the Dawn Wall.


No, it was the "Wall of the Early Morning Light" but has since become known as the Dawn Wall.

Fred, you asked for the original name of Camp 4, which was Camp 4! Sunnyside was the name given much later.

Anyway, I liked this stuff. Yes, I'm a little competitive....

P.S. I met Paul Petzoldt once; what a really nice guy!
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Re: Climbing Trivia Contest
« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2003, 06:30:54 PM »
 I guess I got mixed up on the early morning stuff. the stew was in fact MARMOT. the  trivia on their crash spot in the tetons is really cool so figure it out. The brash american climber with a french name who lived under a bridge in france for awhile before going back to the tetons and  offing himsef after a fight at a party was ----

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Re: Climbing Trivia Contest
« Reply #13 on: November 14, 2003, 06:15:50 AM »
---drunk?

Dunno, but I'm interested to find out.

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Re: Climbing Trivia Contest
« Reply #14 on: November 14, 2003, 06:50:53 AM »
Actually, I believe the first 5.11 in the US was Supremacy Crack by Pat Ament in 1965. Foops was freed in 1967 and was the first 5.11 in the northeast.