Grammy, I gotta say that I found the TCPros just fine and sticky on everything on Found Ledge in July, as well as on Rapid Transit, Interloper (P1) in September and Can You Believe It, with Smear, 2 weeks ago. I know what you mean about rand delamination (I've seen a bit

) but I find the soles plenty sticky for my ability level.

I haven't notice much stretch but I didn't buy them really tight in the first place--my old dogs don't like really tight shoes!