Woodchuck Ledge history question

[M_Sprague]

I have a question for those who are familiar with the history of Woodchuck Ledge. This weekend I started cleaning  a line on the Gravity Wall, just right of the Madara-Damp route. Further to the right is a large, right facing corner up high, then a narrow face with an easy looking left angling crack bordering it on the right. I found two funky old bolts running down the face. It looks to me like a somewhat contrived old abandoned project, but I wanted to check before I chop them out. I am planning on cleaning out the easy crack (looks pretty good)  and putting in a bolted anchor for it which people could use also for TRing the face if they wanted to.

Jerry calls this wall unappealing looking in his new guide, but to my new routing eye it looks pretty good! 100 feet+ tall, roofs, cracks.. It just need some good cleaning.

Anyone know the story of the bolts?

[strandman]

Mark- i swear those bolts were there when I fir st went out around '81   ..cote ? They don;t appear to go anywhere]

[meclimber]

I fell like joe ? (skinny, hyper, used to work at darby field) was even recently doing something on that wall.

[DLottmann]

That Joe is now working at the Cider House in Bartlett...

[M_Sprague]

Thanks, John. I will probably pull them, even if on second look a leadable route is worth doing there. At least one of them is already pulling out about 1/4" and, though the hangers seem to be good SS ones, the bolts look like some cheap non SS hardware store sleeve bolts

It did look like somebody had done a little rough cleaning of the top of the Madara-Damp route. The line looks really good, but there is still a ton of loose rock and vegetation that needs to be cleaned out. I would definitely avoid climbing it until that is done. If somebody is up to doing the public service, that would be great. If I get a chance, I will try to at least swing over and get some of the most dangerious stuff off.

If the weather holds, hopefully I will be up there this weekend.

[strandman]

That Joe is now working at the Cider House in Bartlett...

Joe is still working?? Holy shit,, he's older than Henry and henry is LOT older than me.

[DLottmann]

Must be thinking of a different Joe... this one ain't that old...

[strandman]

Unless ther is a joe Cote jr-- I guessing 70 for sure

Of course i should talk... fuck i'm closing in on SA 

[DLottmann]

I definitely wasn't talking about Joe Cote...

[meclimber]

yeah, no. 

[pappy]

Ah, 70 is the new 45. I hope.