Author Topic: Accident in King Ravine  (Read 969 times)

darwined

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Accident in King Ravine
« on: January 26, 2013, 08:31:53 PM »
Somebody died in King Ravine today.  Was he a climber?  What happened? 
« Last Edit: January 27, 2013, 08:47:03 PM by darwined »

Offline slevasse

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Re: Details?
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2013, 08:42:10 PM »
This references it but it really doesn't give much information.

http://www.unionleader.com/article/20130126/NEWS07/130129296

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Re: Details?
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2013, 08:50:02 PM »
Doesn't really matter I guess.  Prayers and condolences to his loved ones.

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Re: Details?
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2013, 12:26:09 PM »
I saw the report on the news this morning. hard to grok what really happened from that, however they must have slipped and fell. the last report I heard said that he had fell/slid 1500 feet! the snow up there is pretty bulletproof right now, like the fan in Huntington, so I could well imagine that scenario.
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Re: Details?
« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2013, 07:02:33 PM »
Some info I found from WMUR:

"Investigators said 64-year-old Richard Gabriele slipped on hard packed snow and fell. Fish and Game officers said he fell more than 1,500 feet down a 67% grade. The fall sent him tumbling down more than 950 feet in elevation. He died at the scene.

Investigators said the group had people from Maine and Texas. All were experienced and had the right equipment. Gabriele was the last person in the line and no one actually saw him fall."

I wish they wouldn’t use “67% grade”... can someone explain to me what angle that is?

Also, and we use better topic titles that “Details”?

OP, I think you can edit the topic title to actually say what this thread is about...

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Re: Details?
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2013, 07:45:15 PM »
DMan the definition of grade is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grade_%28slope%29

But basically 67% is for every 2 feet up, you move 3 feet horizontally. 67% is around 34 degrees.

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Re: Details?
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2013, 07:55:06 PM »
Reading the Berlin Daily Sun they say the slope is 67 degrees which is much steeper than 67%.

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=440789425993753&id=156821377723894

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Re: Dman's Thread
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2013, 08:00:05 PM »
Happy now? :P

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« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2013, 08:19:44 PM »
rbirk, thanks. I’m assuming “grades” are much less understood by general public than “angle/inclines”, and would think media should stick to angles (34 degrees), which sounds right for Great Gully. Obviously Berlin Daily Sun is confused as there is no way that gully is 67 degrees.

Darwined, LOL, thanks... while I might be considered “forum police”, it’s decent forum etiquette to elude to what is inside a topic so people will read it if interested...

How about “Accident/Fall/Fatality in King’s Ravine”

Perhaps someone who actually has details would catch the topic title, read it, and contribute...

“Details”, and “DMan’s Wisdom”, is unlikely to gain as much attention ;)

Helps with Google searches too, but be side the point....

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« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2013, 08:30:22 PM »
If "fell more than 1,500 feet down a 67% grade. The fall sent him tumbling down more than 950 feet in elevation." were accurate, then the slope in degrees would have been about 40.  1500 * sine (40deg) = 960 feet. sine (40deg) = 0.64 .

P.S.  I believe 100% grade is 45 degree slope or 1 in 1.  Tangent (45deg) = 1.0.
« Last Edit: January 27, 2013, 08:34:41 PM by sneoh »

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Re: Dman's Wisdom
« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2013, 08:48:35 PM »
rbirk, thanks. I’m assuming “grades” are much less understood by general public than “angle/inclines”, and would think media should stick to angles (34 degrees), which sounds right for Great Gully. Obviously Berlin Daily Sun is confused as there is no way that gully is 67 degrees.

Darwined, LOL, thanks... while I might be considered “forum police”, it’s decent forum etiquette to elude to what is inside a topic so people will read it if interested...

How about “Accident/Fall/Fatality in King’s Ravine”

Perhaps someone who actually has details would catch the topic title, read it, and contribute...

“Details”, and “DMan’s Wisdom”, is unlikely to gain as much attention ;)

Helps with Google searches too, but be side the point....

Couldn't resist.  Cheers

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Re: Dman's Wisdom
« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2013, 09:16:55 PM »
If "fell more than 1,500 feet down a 67% grade. The fall sent him tumbling down more than 950 feet in elevation." were accurate, then the slope in degrees would have been about 40.  1500 * sine (40deg) = 960 feet. sine (40deg) = 0.64 .

P.S.  I believe 100% grade is 45 degree slope or 1 in 1.  Tangent (45deg) = 1.0.

The 1 in 1 = 100% grade = 45 degrees is the epiphany I needed. Thanks!

Today, with some explanation from USFS Snow Rangers, I also finally grasped how the snow density is calculated from liquid equivalent (should have known that a long time ago)...