Maybe I'm an old fart too as I hate the crowds with the festivals. But he wasn't dogging ice fest, just making a joking comment about not liking those events. As much as people post about these things being so awesome, there is a group of us that don't find them appealing. He didn't say it sucked and its for losers and resort to name calling. I find it refreshing to see others that don't get jazzed about a huge population coming in. As much as it brings in business, it also destroys climbs for a while, if not for the season. Just as much you think we're old farts (still in my 20's), we could say you must be egotistic and get validation from being seen at events. As much as you see a positive in these, we see negatives.