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Some comments from USFS about "Moderate" avalanche danger

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DLottmann:
While the season is winding down Christopher Joosen, Lead USFS Snow Ranger, posted this yesterday:

http://www.mountwashingtonavalanchecenter.org/2013/04/07/moderate-danger-and-avalanche-accidents-respect-and-awe/

It's a pretty good read, and I especially like this photo taken just last week!

lucky luke:

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This article is very a bad one. There is "avy" post for tornado, but if one year there is more tornado than and other, it will have more death and damage. the comparaison between avy and accident is stupid. It show the inutility of the system in the form that we have actually (saying that, I admit that avy can be usefull)to take a look). Doing avy to make money and for climbing is not the same game

One of the biggest mistake it is to take a look at the entire system, and just discuss the accident. It is like looking at all the accident by ligthning and saying that you must stay home when a thunderstorm occur. Stupid.

The entire system is closely relate to the "line" between mass of warm air from atlantic or continental direction and cold air from canada, that move north and south depending of the season (not remember the name). As you know that, you will see that, because of the global warming, the mt Washington was for many days in a spring situation where the avalanche danger is higher. Using a compilation of what happen before to apply at the actual situation is a mistake. And giving theoric data to a new weather condition is useless. I will prefer Marc Chauvin or Synnot to smell/feel the slab and gave the beat of the mountain. There was a guide caught in an avalanche this winter and all the party was safe. The guide did a good job.

Education most be to be like those guide, not learning a law write by human that you most follow
   

eyebolter:

--- Quote from: DMan on April 09, 2013, 03:37:15 PM ---While the season is winding down Christopher Joosen, Lead USFS Snow Ranger, posted this yesterday:

http://www.mountwashingtonavalanchecenter.org/2013/04/07/moderate-danger-and-avalanche-accidents-respect-and-awe/

It's a pretty good read, and I especially like this photo taken just last week!



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Good article, thanks for the link.  The pics of Tuckerman's are great. Looks like there is a lot of snow up there!.   

hobbsj:
Great read with some good points. And that picture was awesome.  I can't imagine the pure mass and energy involved in that slide!

DLottmann:

--- Quote from: lucky luke on April 10, 2013, 01:39:18 PM ---I will prefer Marc Chauvin or Synnot to smell/feel the slab and gave the beat of the mountain. There was a guide caught in an avalanche this winter and all the party was safe. The guide did a good job.

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I took my first 3 avalanche courses with Chauvin, and Synnott observed one of mine this year (in order to get certified to teach AIARE courses). I think he enjoyed it.

I also spoke with the guide who was caught, and he felt he had made a mistake (one that could have easily been made by any other guide in those circumstances). EDIT: This incident can not be compared to the Wounded Warriors incident in terms of managing "reasonable risk/uncertainty".

Eyebolter & Hobbsj, that pic is awesome... the debris was pretty impressive and still quite visible last Saturday!

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