In the post above, Jake datc was proud to did modern time, just to say that he did it. he didn't ask himself what was the fun of that route. The only fun move is the 5.8 and it is not the crux. he didn't climb to do the fun move, as he avoid it, but to say that he did it.
Say what?? The whole route is fun. I did it because it is a great route, not just to say that I did it. Personally i think getting up to the traverse on P2 is the crux for me.. roofs with giant jugs are easy.. a bit of techy face climbing with less than great gear is harder.
what did i avoid?? how do you know what way i went from a still photo? dumbass. Want me to campus it for you next time?
"P2: 5.8+ PG Walk left 20ft. climb short right facing corner, step right at overhang and then climb to top of huge left facing flake. Move up to the notch in the roof, escape up right past more overhangs and a notch (crux) to a small stance at the steep white face. traverse right 15ft and belay then to top." - dick williams (i skip the lower belay and just go straight to the tree to belay)
I climbed it the first time (with the photos) with a 60yr old trad climber who's been all over the country and found no fault with what I did.
"where I hug the three, unfortunately, because I had hard time..."
you hung on Modern times? HAHAHAHHAAHAAA weak ass poser. "Mr trad climber" can't pull a jug haul roof.. wow.. stick to head down ass out slab climbing then.
here's me waving at ya champ..