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Offline sneoh

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Re: bombings
« Reply #15 on: April 19, 2013, 09:10:19 PM »
"White Cap" captured alive and taken to a Hospital.
One chapter closed, many more to come.
Just glad there were no additional human casualties.

Edit: I take your point, Ward.
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« Reply #16 on: April 19, 2013, 09:30:27 PM »
Don't forget the Constitution Soon when you think of casualties.  It has been dead since 911.
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« Reply #17 on: April 19, 2013, 09:42:45 PM »
Ward-- there are cameras everywhere in Boston,, for years... it's not the CIA,, it's some whacked kids
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« Reply #18 on: April 20, 2013, 06:21:52 AM »
Quote from: strandman on April 19, 2013, 09:42:45 PM
Ward-- there are cameras everywhere in Boston,, for years... it's not the CIA,, it's some whacked kids


It may well be as they say.

I guess I am just skeptical that these kids would pull off an attack like this and drop the bomb off with one kid wearing a baseball hat backwards, as if to insure a positive ID.  If so, they deserve Darwin awards for least competent criminals.
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« Reply #19 on: April 20, 2013, 08:28:30 PM »
Ward, you're a nutter  ;) You have got to be not all there in some way to walk up and stand next to a little kid and young women and drop a bomb at their feet. As far as them being able to make the bombs etc., they were pretty simple and information is all out there on how to make them if you want it, especially if you go back for a visit to the Caucasus for 6 months. I wouldn't be at all surprised if there were others involved though. My first thought on the hats is they were maybe identifiers so spotters could keep track of them.

Ol' Lindsey Graham and the like really pissed me off though with his call to basically ignore the constitution. That was just  dumb and dangerous in so many ways. Protecting our Constitution (meaning us) is so much more important than a couple whackjobs, even if it means a few more casualties. Not to belittle the savagery and the effects on individuals, but people die all the time, get gruesome injuries and in greater numbers from all sorts of mundane reasons. You have to keep it in perspective. Out of 3 billion plus people, a certain percent are murderous assholes.
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« Reply #20 on: April 21, 2013, 06:24:10 AM »
Quote from: M_Sprague on April 20, 2013, 08:28:30 PM


Ol' Lindsey Graham and the like really pissed me off though with his call to basically ignore the constitution. That was just  dumb and dangerous in so many ways. Protecting our Constitution (meaning us) is so much more important than a couple whackjobs, even if it means a few more casualties. Not to belittle the savagery and the effects on individuals, but people die all the time, get gruesome injuries and in greater numbers from all sorts of mundane reasons. You have to keep it in perspective. Out of 3 billion plus people, a certain percent are murderous assholes.


Graham?  Obama has already said they don't have to follow the Constitution when they torture - er I mean interrogate him.   The Constitution is already dead.   All they have to do is call you a terrorist.


Look, if they are as guilty as they appear then they should be tried, found guilty, and fried.  But the Constitution does not have to be shredded in order to do so.
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« Reply #21 on: April 21, 2013, 09:36:14 AM »
Very true.. if most people were as gearedto defend the 4th amendment as the second, things might be different.
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« Reply #22 on: April 21, 2013, 09:04:04 PM »
This might be my new favorite gif of all time.


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« Reply #23 on: April 21, 2013, 10:12:37 PM »
Personally, I find this
"When police officers are confronted by a concern for public safety, Miranda warnings need not be provided prior to asking questions directed at neutralizing an imminent threat, and voluntary statements made in response to such narrowly tailored questions can be admitted at trial,"
quite troubling in this case and much against what we stand for in terms of rights, justice, and due process.  I live two towns west of Watertown, MA and feel completely against "imminent threats" after 8.50p on Friday.
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« Reply #24 on: April 22, 2013, 09:14:35 AM »
J- that is the best,,,,,pretty agile I'd say   :D
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« Reply #25 on: April 22, 2013, 10:27:31 AM »
Quote from: strandman on April 21, 2013, 09:36:14 AM
Very true.. if most people were as gearedto defend the 4th amendment as the second, things might be different.

The problem is there are strong commercial interests in the 2nd (sell guns) and not so obviously in the 4th.
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« Reply #26 on: April 22, 2013, 05:23:58 PM »
RIGHT  $$$$$.. i like guns, i own guns.. BUT..

The second amendment is pretty short and vague.  People literally think Obama is coming to take the guns away !  i hear this every day

i don't know.. in MA 1978, i had to take live fire test for permit.. i thinks that is a good idea  ..
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« Reply #27 on: April 22, 2013, 08:17:39 PM »
Well I have a class A permit to carry in Mass and I had to get fingerprinted even though I have no record.  Sucks since I didn't want to get fingerprinted for big brother.

The two bombing suspects did not have any permit at all.  Looks like that law was highly effective, like most gun laws.

Maybe they should require fingerprints in order to buy a pressure cooker; I'm sure that would have thwarted them, lol.
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« Reply #28 on: April 22, 2013, 09:36:08 PM »
Immigrants get fingerprinted, Ward.  I ought to know.  And, oh, Uncle Sam has a biometric record of me as well, including retina scan.  I am not surprised if they have my DNA decoded too.
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« Reply #29 on: April 22, 2013, 09:58:57 PM »
Quote from: strandman on April 22, 2013, 05:23:58 PM
RIGHT  $$$$$.. i like guns, i own guns.. BUT..

The second amendment is pretty short and vague.  People literally think Obama is coming to take the guns away !  i hear this every day

i don't know.. in MA 1978, i had to take live fire test for permit.. i thinks that is a good idea  ..

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