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[danf]

I'm ready to buy some small cams (tax return and all....).  Just not sure which direction to go....  What are everyone's thoughts on C3's vs Aliens?  And to throw another wrench in there, the new BD X4 is available now- has anyone played with those yet?  C3's would be the cheapest, Aliens most expensive and the X4's fall right in the middle of them.  Cost is a bit of an issue, but if the Aliens are better suited I'd rather pay the upfront cost now.

[mopowers]

For me its metolius tcu's by a mile.

C3's are bulky and i have never understood whats so great about Aliens.

[xcrag_corex]

I dig the C3s. Worth every penny I feel.... Hit your local gear shop and fiddle with them all and see which one tickles your fancy the most

[strandman]

For me its metolius tcu's by a mile.

C3's are bulky and i have never understood whats so great about Aliens.

Agree MO--- Aliens are clunky,expensive and toolong
i have ussed metolius since they came out,, none better, though wired bliss isclose

[JakeDatc]

I have old aliens  and mastercams.   I have a Yellow TCU that i'd trade for a mastercam in a heartbeat.   

[strandman]

Only ONE yellow jake !! Damn, i think I have 3, maybe 4

[tradmanclimbz]

I have C3, TCU, C4 and old aliens. like em all. the only complaint on the TCU's is they are short.

[strandman]

Interesting.. that a big reason why i like the TCU's....

[JakeDatc]

Only ONE yellow jake !! Damn, i think I have 3, maybe 4

I have a yellow alien also

blue, green, yellow alien ,  yellow tcu, blue MC, orange MC, red MC,  grey C4... pink, red, brown tricam

[strandman]

I had to go look-

22 cams , 1" and under !!! I must have a problem

2x #00
4x #0
4x #1
3x #2
2x #3
2x#4

5 small tech friends

[JakeDatc]

i only trad at the gunks so having a good variety is better than having a lot of one size..

[strandman]

Ya- not really like Indian Creek

[tradmanclimbz]

I do not see any advantage to shorter units. I like the metelious Tcu and smaller 4CU  because they place securely. I also Ile the BD units and the aliens because of the reach advantage and less likly to get completly burried ina crack.

[strandman]

i have never even placed a BD cam.... I'm sure they are fine, but I don't need anymore cams

[hobbsj]

I like tcu's.  I placed aliens a few times and don't think they're bad, just not worth the extra money to me.  Find a guy wit the different sets and check them out,  Maybe even somebody at the crag will let you piddle with them while they organize their gear.  I bought my first cams without trying them out and regretted it horribly.