When Arno was putting up The Great A Ha on Whitesides he would drill a hole on lead, put in an RB, and keep on going, then Ordner would put in the permanent bolt while cleaning the pitch. A little convoluted, but could be due to the reaction Arno got when he broke out the gas drill to put up Warrior's Way. He was falsely accused at the time of rap bolting WW--he did it ground up on lead--but for a lot of us the power drill was enough of a transgression at the time. In fact, ML and I were over on the right side of the face on the OR or Traditions or something and heard the drill wailing away over near Little Miss Dangerous and shouted over, 'You wait until Arno finds out what you're doing, he's going to kick your ass!' We were pissed, no one, that we knew of at the time, had used a power drill in the Cashiers area. When we got back to the parking lot there was only one other vehicle there, a pick up truck with a gas can in the back, so I said, 'OK, MF, and took the gas can. Petty, but it was 20 years ago, so maybe I've grown up. mark called me later and said, 'That was Arno!' We didn't know what to make of that. Sorry about the gas can, dude.