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Any government shutdown effects in the Whites?
« on: October 01, 2013, 11:30:48 PM »
Has anybody noticed any climbing areas or access roads being closed in the White Mountains? For me, I am specifically wondering if there would be a chance Sawyer River Rd, would be gated.
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Re: Any government shutdown effects in the Whites?
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2013, 03:16:27 AM »
I haven't seen any USFS gates closed, but I haven't been far. I don't know specifically about Sawyer River Road, but according to WMUR:


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At the White Mountains National Forest, federal welcome and ranger stations will be closed, but there is no admission gate, so visitors will still be able to enter and drive through the park. There are private and state visitor centers that will still offer maps and guidance. National Forest campgrounds in the park are also open, because they're operated by a vendor.

Read more: http://www.wmur.com/news/politics/government-shutdown-whats-open-closed-in-new-hampshire/-/9857748/22212024/-/porprkz/-/index.html#ixzz2gXuJJXL5

And according to a WMNF spokesperson quoted in this article: http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/news/1017405-469/government-shutdown-hatchery-closed-airport-open-white.html

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Forest Service spokeswoman Colleen Mainville said about 95 percent of the workforce were to be sent home – including office administrators, people who maintain trails, and janitors who clean the restrooms in visitor information centers.

Unlike a national park, the forest isn’t gated, so it will remain open for visitors, although the information center will probably be closed and some outhouses and isolated restrooms may have to be shut, Mainville said.

“The White Mountains will be open for leaf peeping,” she said

I think that at this time, access in the WMNF looks pretty good.
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Re: Any government shutdown effects in the Whites?
« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2013, 10:37:39 AM »
Thanks. I had called the FS before the shutdown to check if gate closings was a possibility and the person who answered didn't think so, but they also didn't seem to know what I was talking about when I mentioned the shutdown, so I wasn't really assured.
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Re: Any government shutdown effects in the Whites?
« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2013, 07:53:30 PM »
they also didn't seem to know what I was talking about when I mentioned the shutdown

That's a little disturbing...
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Re: Any government shutdown effects in the Whites?
« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2013, 08:06:58 PM »
Any effects? Several of my friends have been furloughed. That's enough for me...
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Re: Any government shutdown effects in the Whites?
« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2013, 10:07:30 PM »
Update: The toilets in the main lot in Rumney are locked.

The porta-potties are not locked, and are relatively empty (don't ask how I know). The RCA is trying to get the vendors who service the porta-pots to let us pay for them in the meantime. This was Mark Sprague's idea, and a great one! He deserves the credit for getting the ball rolling. Thanks Mark!  It's likely that we'll pay for at least one or two visits by the big stinky poop truck.

Local volunteers are emptying the trash bins and taking the garbage to the Rumney Transfer Station. If you can pack out your waste, it helps. If you can pack out a bag of garbage from the bins and replace the garbage bag, please do so: this is a huge help.


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Re: Any government shutdown effects in the Whites?
« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2013, 11:52:53 PM »
I wish we could have all the poop pumped into the offices and front lawns of the T-bag polticians and maybe the folks who voted the freaks in.
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Re: Any government shutdown effects in the Whites?
« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2013, 06:25:31 AM »
I wish we could have all the poop pumped into the offices and front lawns of the T-bag polticians and maybe the folks who voted the freaks in.

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Re: Any government shutdown effects in the Whites?
« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2013, 09:38:37 AM »
I wish we could have all the poop pumped into the offices and front lawns of the T-bag polticians and maybe the folks who voted the freaks in.

Amen. I was talking to a friend who lives in DC, where trash pickup was suspended in the last shutdown in the 1990s. We decided that the front steps of the Capitol Building would make a good temporary transfer station until the shutdown ends. (Although, to be fair, I think that's illegal, so we're really just making a joke. Right?)
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Re: Any government shutdown effects in the Whites?
« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2013, 11:42:21 AM »
Update: The toilets in the main lot in Rumney are locked.

The porta-potties are not locked, and are relatively empty (don't ask how I know). The RCA is trying to get the vendors who service the porta-pots to let us pay for them in the meantime. This was Mark Sprague's idea, and a great one! He deserves the credit for getting the ball rolling. Thanks Mark!  It's likely that we'll pay for at least one or two visits by the big stinky poop truck.

Local volunteers are emptying the trash bins and taking the garbage to the Rumney Transfer Station. If you can pack out your waste, it helps. If you can pack out a bag of garbage from the bins and replace the garbage bag, please do so: this is a huge help.


Great idea, but I'll bet the FS won't allow it.  The purpose of this is for us to feel the effects.  They could eliminate the entire Department of Education (which doesn't educate a single person) and few would complain.   

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Re: Any government shutdown effects in the Whites?
« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2013, 12:55:41 PM »
Didn't the RCA pay for Porta-Potties at Rumney in the past with no issue, Ward?
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Re: Any government shutdown effects in the Whites?
« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2013, 01:07:00 PM »
They could eliminate the entire Department of Education (which doesn't educate a single person) and few would complain.

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Re: Any government shutdown effects in the Whites?
« Reply #12 on: October 03, 2013, 02:21:40 PM »
UPDATE: The day use fee collection tubes at Rumney are taped closed, and posted with a USFS sign that says, "No Fee Required In This Area".

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Re: Any government shutdown effects in the Whites?
« Reply #13 on: October 03, 2013, 02:57:35 PM »
They could eliminate the entire Department of Education (which doesn't educate a single person) and few would complain.

eyes rolling...head shaking...sighing...

Ward is a scorpio. They really get into conspiracy shit. You have to cut him some slack. ::) ;D

I am sure one could find many problems in the Dept of Ed., but without it we would probably have a lot more kids being only indoctrinated to be nice little ignorant Christian-Talaban.
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Re: Any government shutdown effects in the Whites?
« Reply #14 on: October 03, 2013, 03:47:05 PM »
Hell, I just bought the latest sticker so I won't have to pay for parking at Rumney every time I go.  Only if I had known ...... :)

Ward is an anarchist. Or just someone who has a "problem with authority".  :)

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