I have changed the overall theme for the site to a more modern "curve" theme. It will be the one everyone uses from now on, you will not be able to alter it on your own. It will make things a whole lot easier for me to maintain.THNXthe Management
Some of the thing they have done down south are sickening. Private for profit fire companys that sit there and watch your house burn down because you were not on their list of customers.
To clarify he did call for the rescue but was reported overdue. I do not believe he had a cell phone with him.
Really? I hope you are joking. Likely not tho.
Quote from: sneoh on December 16, 2013, 11:05:09 AMReally? I hope you are joking. Likely not tho.It has happened. Most recent case in my memory was just a couple years ago in Tennessee as I recall. I don't have time to find a link at the moment. As a firefighter, the whole concept disgusts me. That being said, that is how firefighting in the U.S. started way back when...
The decision makeing process on who to charge and who not to charge seems a bit crazy to me. It would boil down to a popularity contest. i hate those processes and make a point of not watching sports that run that way. Figuerskateing, dressage, etc. Someone in authority gets to make the decision that the victim was an ahole lets charge em. how do we know that the person makeing the decision is not completly incompetent or in a bad mood.
Quote from: tradmanclimbz on December 16, 2013, 06:26:35 AMThe decision makeing process on who to charge and who not to charge seems a bit crazy to me. It would boil down to a popularity contest. i hate those processes and make a point of not watching sports that run that way. Figuerskateing, dressage, etc. Someone in authority gets to make the decision that the victim was an ahole lets charge em. how do we know that the person makeing the decision is not completly incompetent or in a bad mood.I kind of feel the same way. I mean the criticism we read in the report was that he made the mistake of "leaving the trail" and "traveling alone." So anybody soloing anything is now being irresponsible?And I think they also mentioned that he survived the night because he was prepared for it. Well maybe if he wasn't carrying a bunch of crap he would have been faster. Or maybe he would have kept moving and not required a rescue if the alternative was freezing to death.I just don't trust a bureaucrat to decide who is incompetent or reckless. Also we waste so much money on corporate welfare a few rescues here and there are peanuts.
Well that makes more sense regarding the airlift.They should have said inexperience and bad judgement were the likely causes instead of traveling alone and leaving the trail. (I get that it may have been bad judgement for someone inexperienced to solo this route and/or not turn back sooner but the quote makes it sound like it would be a mistake/reckless for anyone to solo anything.)I don't really have any actual criticism for the climber since we can only guess what happened at this point. Was just making a point about not agreeing with the cited causes of the incident.
I think there is a cultural difference with some Canadian climbers that could cause more of these casual calls for help. Canada Parks has well paid, well trained, well staffed & equipped mountain rescue folks on 24 hour call... I have heard they even discourage fellow recreational climbers from helping an injured climber and to “let the pros take care of it”... this rubs me the wrong way as climbers have always come to each other’s aid IMO... like a “Band of Brothers (and sisters)” we look out for each other... or should.
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