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Author Topic: Is this sport exploding or what?  (Read 1711 times)

OldEric

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Re: Is this sport exploding or what?
« Reply #30 on: February 04, 2014, 10:13:56 PM »

Here is some fashion for you all:


High tech was the foamback!  You sweat like a pig on every lead, then it turned to ice on the belays.  Oh, and it wasn't really waterproof either.

I bivied in my foamback after doing the Diamond 40 years ago - never been the same since.
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Re: Is this sport exploding or what?
« Reply #31 on: February 05, 2014, 01:06:15 AM »

That explains a lot-- I bivied in mine on Cannon in October and on a couple of ledges in Cham in July--luckily , on all occasions I had a wooly balaclava!
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Re: Is this sport exploding or what?
« Reply #32 on: February 05, 2014, 10:23:38 AM »

I think the return on investment is what's drawing so many climbers into the sport.  Most people only get to see the mountains through the window of a car or on the calendar hanging from the fridge.  We get to see them from the end of a rope.  That's worth a bunch.

No doubt! It has taken me to the most amazing, beautiful places I have ever been!
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Re: Is this sport exploding or what?
« Reply #33 on: February 05, 2014, 10:26:10 AM »

No doubt! It has taken me to the most amazing, beautiful places I have ever been!

100% !!!
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Re: Is this sport exploding or what?
« Reply #34 on: February 05, 2014, 12:32:37 PM »

What is a foamback?
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Re: Is this sport exploding or what?
« Reply #35 on: February 05, 2014, 01:06:27 PM »

What is a foamback?

foa back was a "waterproof" technology that Choiunard developed in the mid 70's (pre Gortex).  Basically a laminate of thin (~1/8 inch) closed cell foam on the inside and a heavy duty waterproof outer - coated heavy duty nylon or something.  It didn't breath - no vapor could pass through - but the theory was that the foam would absorb your sweat and keep your inner layer(s) dry. 
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Re: Is this sport exploding or what?
« Reply #36 on: February 05, 2014, 03:57:53 PM »

Arhggg that sounds miserable lolz.
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Re: Is this sport exploding or what?
« Reply #37 on: February 05, 2014, 04:48:23 PM »

A foam back was a piece of shit.. but it was better than a 60/40
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Re: Is this sport exploding or what?
« Reply #38 on: February 05, 2014, 05:41:04 PM »

I've never heard of Foam back either.  Interesting.
The first time I learned about Gore Tex was '81 or '82.  I guess it was relatively new then and maybe only commonly known in and around Seattle (where I lived '81 to '85). 
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Re: Is this sport exploding or what?
« Reply #39 on: February 05, 2014, 07:15:13 PM »

Foam back was a round a while ..it was from Chouinard or maybe even Great pacific iron Works !! They also brought us the infamous Tump Line  (don't ask)..I think Gore was around the same time as Koflach's came out..or Why are people wearing ski boots ice climbing ?  '81/82
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Re: Is this sport exploding or what?
« Reply #40 on: February 05, 2014, 09:34:05 PM »

A foam back was a piece of shit.. but it was better than a 60/40

They try to increase the efficiency of cotton with a vapor barier and cell foam. So, t-shirt have good roots.

I must say that if Chouinard took the idea, it was because some thing was good in it. Gore tex appear and for 400$ you can have the best Jacket...but still just a jacket is cold, you most have different layer under it. The use of cotton need a good knowledge of weahter and of our metabolism to prevent over heat.
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Re: Is this sport exploding or what?
« Reply #41 on: February 06, 2014, 11:48:21 AM »

Are you seriously gonna continue with the cotton t-shirt shtick?

 
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Re: Is this sport exploding or what?
« Reply #42 on: February 06, 2014, 11:50:22 AM »

You sweat because your body is overheated..period.  If what ever you are wearing gets soaked, you have too much on.
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Re: Is this sport exploding or what?
« Reply #43 on: February 14, 2014, 07:10:22 PM »

You sweat because your body is overheated..period.  If what ever you are wearing gets soaked, you have too much on.

The problem if you can overheat for 200 feet and froze after. an overheat again.

I was waiting at athe bottom of a route that my partner belay me, it was very cold. When I began to climb, I used a lot of eenergy. All the cold blood of my arms was going to the heart and brain, creating a mild hypothermia: sick, shivering, finger too cold, etc..
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Re: Is this sport exploding or what?
« Reply #44 on: February 14, 2014, 08:16:11 PM »

All the cold blood of my arms was going to the heart and brain,
I cannot speak for its medical/physiological accuracy but I think I can turn this into one of the best excuse ever for failing in anything.  If I ever use it, I will give you 100% credit, LL.
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