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Offline tinker

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Quite the send!
« on: February 17, 2014, 04:29:35 PM »

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Re: Quite the send!
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2014, 06:34:13 PM »
He's got "stones" that are unbelievable. I was completely gripped just watching it. Absolutely amazing!

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Re: Quite the send!
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2014, 08:38:31 PM »
margin for error has vanished...   Pushing too close to the edge....   that was a heavily edited video spot and looked super solid. aparently there were some not so solid moves up there...............

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Re: Quite the send!
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2014, 08:58:49 PM »
margin for error has vanished...   Pushing too close to the edge....   that was a heavily edited video spot and looked super solid. aparently there were some not so solid moves up there...............
Yup. 

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« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2014, 09:55:58 PM »
Wow! Life or Death, while fully living. This is inspirational insanity.
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Re: Quite the send!
« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2014, 07:05:42 AM »
As Tradman says, the margin of error has vanished, on this climb. Several respected climbers, over on Supertopo, have chimed in on this solo. Scott Cosgrove, in particular, who did some very hard solo's BITD. was pretty blunt on his assessment, pointing out the fact how few great soloist are still alive.
As Donini has pointed out, when soloing a crack, more than one thing has to fail, but Alex was pulling on small flakes, which I'm sure were flexing--a creepy feeling.

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Re: Quite the send!
« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2014, 07:50:08 AM »
I'm getting old, or finally growing up. When I was young I would have been, 'Hell ya, that's rad! And if something goes wrong, (and it only has to go wrong once) well, live fast, die young, better to burn out than fade away...' blah, blah, blah.

One of the peculiarities of the species, and our sport in particular, is that those with the most to lose take the most insane risks. It would make (more, this is relative) sense for me to solo Promenade or take off solo alpine up the Shining Wall than for some 20 something. I've performed my evolutionary function (procreated), so I'm dispensable. If I crash, what have I lost? 20-30 years, half of them in a wheelchair with an oxygen tube? So what? Weigh that against what a twenty something has to lose.

What really disturbs me is the ghoulish way North Face or 60 Minutes follows Honnold around documenting these things, for their own profit more than his, when you know at some point what they will capture is him cratering. The only serial soloist I've ever felt confident would always come back is Croft, who was always in control, and in cracks. And the record seems to bear this out.
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« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2014, 08:18:03 AM »
When a young kid leaves us early it is devastateing to those left behind. Lives are changed and affected in a big way.

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Re: Quite the send!
« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2014, 08:47:58 AM »
Is it my imagination but was that a North Face cotton t-shirt he was wearing?

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Re: Quite the send!
« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2014, 09:21:20 AM »
very impressive...
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Re: Quite the send!
« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2014, 09:35:59 AM »
The one factor todaywhich is different than perhaps 20-30 years ago, is the internet. The media--driven partly by big business etc, is compelling guys like Honnold to keep pushing the envelope. I have the greatest respect for these guys but unfortunately, I'm sure their sponsors. behind their corporate desk, keep demanding more.

When Croft soloed the Rostrum, multiple times in one day, the only guy snapping a photo shot was Bachar.

Honnold and Caldwell's recent alpine traverse in Patagonia is astounding. It is amazing the fitness these guys are in!!


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« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2014, 09:45:21 AM »
I recall reading that many of the decisions made in the disasterous 86? season on K2 were influenced by pressures to keep sponsors.

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Re: Quite the send!
« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2014, 09:52:32 AM »
You could say that soling face and soloing cracks are different, but hard is hard..Ale has soloed 13B cracks as well  ,,12+ is pretty much in his range.
He did say the the Freerider on El Cap is a no...maybe the 12+ OW is a problem
Some of the great soloists don't fall at the limit, it's the easy stuff that gets them.

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Re: Quite the send!
« Reply #13 on: February 18, 2014, 01:34:51 PM »
Some of the great soloists don't fall at the limit, it's the easy stuff that gets them.

sheesh...
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Re: Quite the send!
« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2014, 02:13:44 PM »
I saw Bachar soloing at Red Rocks and the guy never looked like he could fall.  I belayed him on "The Gift" (12c/d)  the day before he soloed it; he looked super strong (I had just done it and he looked WAY stronger than me on it ), and when I lowered him he said "that was shaky."

He soloed it the next day; I made sure that I was not there.

He was super solid, but didn't know when to say when.  Now he is talus food.

Croft was the next level; I've met him and he was a nice regular guy.

He stopped extreme solos after a damned good run, and he is still with us (and probably out climbing right now).

Alex is the next level up.  I wish him well.  I also wish he would know when to say when.

I hope that I am wrong, but i'm guessing that I will outlive him even though I am 53.