Ropes on Lions Head

[Max Forbes]

If someone wants to put fixed lines up for a day to get his friends or clients up, fine, but take them down after. Fixed lines ruin the fun of climbing the mountain on your own. I've never been a fan of fixed lines, ladders, rungs, or carved steps anywhere in the mountains. If you can't do it on your own without the aid of something someone has built for you, you have no business up there. 

[Homeless Junkie]

 I understand exactly what you guys mean. Take the fixed lines down!! It takes away MY wilderness experience. No screws either. I can't stand seeing the holes left in the ice by those things. Don't even get me started on crampons. People should be able to get up the trail without the aid of something some company built for you. Those crampons scratch the rock and ice and leave marks all over the place. It ruins MY experience looking at all that irreversible damage.

 You shouldn't be able to hire a guide either. That would solve everything.

 

[DLottmann]

Yesterday I saw fixed line all the way up Lobster Claw Gully... a large group looked to be training for something... or maybe they were just avoiding the clusterF that is WLHT.

[darwined]

I understand exactly what you guys mean. Take the fixed lines down!! It takes away MY wilderness experience. No screws either. I can't stand seeing the holes left in the ice by those things. Don't even get me started on crampons. People should be able to get up the trail without the aid of something some company built for you. Those crampons scratch the rock and ice and leave marks all over the place. It ruins MY experience looking at all that irreversible damage.

 You shouldn't be able to hire a guide either. That would solve everything.

 

Fail.  You don't leave your screws on a climb for weeks at a time

[DLottmann]

I understand exactly what you guys mean. Take the fixed lines down!! It takes away MY wilderness experience. No screws either. I can't stand seeing the holes left in the ice by those things. Don't even get me started on crampons. People should be able to get up the trail without the aid of something some company built for you. Those crampons scratch the rock and ice and leave marks all over the place. It ruins MY experience looking at all that irreversible damage.

 You shouldn't be able to hire a guide either. That would solve everything.

 

Fail.  You don't leave your screws on a climb for weeks at a time

LOL. You fail at irony and satire.

[darwined]

Oops

[Homeless Junkie]

Weeks?.. wait, weeks! I retract what I wrote.

 Seriously though, Next thing you know people will be leaving more than fixed lines.. They'll leave o2 bottles, flags and tent poles.

 Darwined, I was talking about the hole in the ice not the screw itself. Those holes are worse than the marks left by crampons on rock.

[WanderlustMD]

Ropes that aren't directly in use by the party that placed them have a right to be moved. Of course, they can also be handy in many contexts. Lion's Head seems a little overkill for fixed ropes but who am I to judge?

I can see why the fixed rope was removed but cutting it up was a bit over the top IMO, as was tying it to the pack like he just scalped someone...seriously...

Small world stuff.

[strandman]

Mike may have been wrong to chop up the rope(he admits that) but...if your gonna go for it, you might as well go all out

[crazyt]

Just think what it could lead to. Roads and trains and buildings. All to enhance your quality outdoor experience.

[Admin Al]

Have you ever been to Asheville NC? The Blue Ridge Parkway is like a road across the top of the Presie's...

[strandman]

Ya Al..and sometimes the weather is almost as bad !!

[CD]

Jeez
I probably picked the wrong month to bolt the standard rt chimney on Cathedral. Fixed a line on the cave wall too.