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I understand exactly what you guys mean. Take the fixed lines down!! It takes away MY wilderness experience. No screws either. I can't stand seeing the holes left in the ice by those things. Don't even get me started on crampons. People should be able to get up the trail without the aid of something some company built for you. Those crampons scratch the rock and ice and leave marks all over the place. It ruins MY experience looking at all that irreversible damage. You shouldn't be able to hire a guide either. That would solve everything.
Quote from: Homeless Junkie on March 10, 2014, 11:23:50 am I understand exactly what you guys mean. Take the fixed lines down!! It takes away MY wilderness experience. No screws either. I can't stand seeing the holes left in the ice by those things. Don't even get me started on crampons. People should be able to get up the trail without the aid of something some company built for you. Those crampons scratch the rock and ice and leave marks all over the place. It ruins MY experience looking at all that irreversible damage. You shouldn't be able to hire a guide either. That would solve everything. Fail. You don't leave your screws on a climb for weeks at a time