Thanks, Soon. I think I may have actually met Champ briefly while I was climbing at Cathedral with Olga a few years ago, but I am not sure. I don't think I have actually met John in person unless it was very early in my climbing while Whitey was dragging me around, though we email and have the same new routing bug, so I feel like I have. I actually have know quite a few here at least a little bit from bumping into them repeatedly over the years at the crags, some more than others. Climbing definitely makes a connection for me, even if I haven't actually tied into the same rope. Even people I think are assholes sometimes, once I look past that, there is a brotherhood (or sisterhood)