I analyze two rating systems used in north conway that you can found in Ed webster guide book and the recent guide book. I found that one is wrote for the elite and the other to the average climber. One is wrote if you are already good, and the other is wrote if you like to have a nice climbing day, like lake view at canon, or royal arches in yosemite. Accessibility, it is all what the trad climber want...no bolt, no reserve area...just enjoy a full day of climbing. [...] The question is: which gradation system do you like to have as a climber?
Then we moved uphill and my partner climbed on his 5.14a project for an hour or so, which is a challenging route for him to climb.
you are part of the elite...
No, I most certainly am not elite, and that was my point (on the other thread)!
You took me a little out of context there. I was pointing out that I can climb at a sport crag with elite climbers, in spite of the fact that I struggle to get off the ground on 5.11s that they'd warm up on. (True story)
But that has nothing to do with the YDS vs NCCS thing, though I feel like you're using it to discredit my position on the YDS because it's convenient.
I feel like the NCCS wouldn't help me choose routes any better or worse than the YDS does today. This would be true regardless of any change in my skill level, up or down. It's all subjective within a range. The YDS keeps me from getting in way over my head, but only when used in combination with my brain.
And if I am elite, then strandman is a sporto and Al wears a suit to work. :-). Seriously, have you seen my tick list? Full of 5.9s.