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steve weitzler

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Re: objectivity to rate a route
« Reply #90 on: April 17, 2014, 12:35:23 PM »

Well we could sub-divide the grades ie: hard..harder than hard...hardest. Sort of like 12a, 12b......
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Re: objectivity to rate a route
« Reply #91 on: April 17, 2014, 07:24:59 PM »

Or cotton tee shirts for that matter :)
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Re: objectivity to rate a route
« Reply #92 on: April 21, 2014, 09:46:02 PM »

I climbed recently at rumney, it was great, but not my style.

Why didn't you stop by and say hello? We may have our differences, but when you're visiting someone's backyard, you should take an invitation to bury the hatchet over a beer.

Besides, I could show your ten or twenty of Bradley White's adventure routes. No bolts, no solid pro, just pure licheny fear. Many of them have not seen an second ascent. Some would argue that a few haven't seen a first ascent. Dude: it'd have been a golden opportunity. (Bradley is a friend of mine. I'm not making fun of him. There is no denying that his routes are scary, and many are incomplete.)

Alas. Next time.
 
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Re: objectivity to rate a route
« Reply #93 on: April 21, 2014, 09:58:27 PM »

That's right!  Those Bradley scarefest will have more than enough FA "spirit" for LL.
But I am willing to bet you a 120 that he appreciates well-traveled routes as much as anyone.  Why else he has not asked about going into those back-wood places Mark frequents to get a few primo FA of his own?
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Re: objectivity to rate a route
« Reply #94 on: April 22, 2014, 10:10:24 AM »

Why didn't you stop by and say hello? We may have our differences, but when you're visiting someone's backyard, you should take an invitation to bury the hatchet over a beer.
I was with my partner and do some easy stuff. I working out for September and don't want to injure myself at the beginning of the season. I like Rumney as a workout for crimp, finger work and different kind of movement. It could be fun to go climbing with you as you know the place and we can do some amusing stuff that you didn't climb for a long time. Not as some one who guide the other, but as sport partners. 

My game is not to be better than other or to have my name on a route for glory. I want to go where I never been and push my limits. I wont lead nutcracker at cathedral as much as I won't lead any thing that don't worth it...for me, as well as I don't go cycling because I don't like that. I try a 5.11d and fail on the last move at my second try (just left of nest crowd I think; althought not easy stuff). So, there is places for fun.   
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Re: objectivity to rate a route
« Reply #95 on: April 22, 2014, 10:44:06 AM »

St Elmo's Fire on the left (but not far left side) of Crow's Nest?  Nice place to send time at on a beautiful, sunny day before the leaves appear.
Good choice, LL.  Nice.
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Re: objectivity to rate a route
« Reply #96 on: April 22, 2014, 05:41:00 PM »

St Elmo's Fire on the left (but not far left side) of Crow's Nest?  Nice place to send time at on a beautiful, sunny day before the leaves appear.
Good choice, LL.  Nice.

Was on seasick I think. Look at St Elmo's fire...nice.
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Re: objectivity to rate a route
« Reply #97 on: April 22, 2014, 10:02:15 PM »

My game is not to be better than other or to have my name on a route for glory.

Somehow I just don't believe you….

In fact, I think your "game" is all about how much "better" you are than others…

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ed "in it for the glory" e

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Re: objectivity to rate a route
« Reply #98 on: April 22, 2014, 10:30:20 PM »

Good one Ed..i only do new routes for fame and glory ! Look where it has gotten me  :o

and of coarse to give people and lline they can aspire to do someday   :-*


Now where is that new 5.6 i've been looking at ???
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Re: objectivity to rate a route
« Reply #99 on: April 23, 2014, 12:47:11 AM »

My game is not to be better than other or to have my name on a route for glory.

Somehow I just don't believe you….

Socrate said: do what you did yesterday and a little bit more: improve

to improve from a 5.6 to a 5.7 is as good as improving from a 5.12 to a 5.13. I like to climb at my level.
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Re: objectivity to rate a route
« Reply #100 on: May 04, 2014, 11:03:51 AM »

My game is not to be better than other or to have my name on a route for glory.

Somehow I just don't believe you….

In fact, I think your "game" is all about how much "better" you are than others…

respectfully,

ed "in it for the glory" e

ferchissakes ed- looks too me that you're one of the "elite".

LL- if you're as badass as your garbled posts make you out to be, and you apparently strive for on-site "pure" "trad" climbing, you wouldn't give a damn about ratings at all. The fact that you do, at the same time attempting to look down on every climber who placed/used a bolt, goes to show how fragile your whittle ego is.

Man up ya pussy!
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Re: objectivity to rate a route
« Reply #101 on: May 05, 2014, 02:00:00 PM »


LL- if you're as badass as your garbled posts make you out to be, and you apparently strive for on-site "pure" "trad" climbing, you wouldn't give a damn about ratings at all. The fact that you do, at the same time attempting to look down on every climber who placed/used a bolt, goes to show how fragile your whittle ego is.

Man up ya pussy!

I wrote on this forum for safety and some understand it and some other don't

I don't want to be better than other, I want that other climb like if they climb a first ascend and take all the safety precaution to come back down safe. Climbing and thinking that you can't fall before a bolt, or that a stopper is good after a full day at the bottom of the cliff is not, for me, be a safe climber.

objectivity to rate is good and the NCCS was made to climber to climb knowing as much of the route as a local who spend time at the bottom of the cliff looking where he is going to go and to avoid that a climber try a route over is helmet, with the challenge to climb without previous knowledge. 
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