LL, have you ever noticed that there are no beginner climbers who enter into discussion with you here about these topics that you obsess about?
There are no beginner climber who like controversy and to be insult when they bring new approach. They like to learn and understand. If they had the chance to discuss freely, they will enter the discussion. But because you insult the people who climb before us, they don't want to be "out of the gang" and they don't said there opinion or ask question.
Here it is what many very good climber from all over the nation think about the NCCS: A NCCS would obviously promote the safety of climbing, since through knowledge of the NCCS gained through local climbing, the climber would avoid to attempting in a new region a route having difficulty and problem which he could not cope.
It tooks one person to destroy all the effort of many person. But a lot of courage to keep your integrity. If you think that insulting who made the system is good, I can't do any think. If you think that the NCCS can't promote the safety of climbing, why don't you explain the reason???
On the scale difficulty of the hardiest move (YDS), you know that you can have a diedral, a face, a slab, they are all 5.8 or 5.9. You know that some one is better in over hang and other on slab. But there is one number for them all.
The rating system, identify by I to VI that Dgoguen present on his last post is a measure of time. I am sure that you have enough experience to understand that it is a measure of the time that some one take to be ready to climb at the bottom, do some route finding to know where to go, place is protection, climb to the anchor, built the anchor, belay his partner, gave the equipment to the next leader. The time for one pitch more the time of the second, third...to have an overall.
It is like the scale difficulty. Some climber will be better in rope management, than in route finding. So the rating is very interesting if you never climb in a cliff, to know what to do. You begin with a classic and adjust yourself to climb at your level.
What is bad with that?
I hope that you will have the courage to answer honestly your opinion and not just insult me of being obsess!!! As any one who like to inflict pain to other can do.
Of course, you understand that building bolt anchor is cheating as it change the rating, you may understand a difference between trad and sport.
Still, even if I am wrong on the distinction...The people who create the NCCS are person that we must respect. It is because they do some things that you have been able to climb.