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Nemesis

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Re: 2 accidents on Mt Washington March 13
« Reply #15 on: March 22, 2016, 06:03:47 PM »
"What this plan WILL do, is make the insurance you have work better for YOU"- Barack Obama

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SSJugLUsM58

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Re: 2 accidents on Mt Washington March 13
« Reply #16 on: March 22, 2016, 07:54:14 PM »
"What this plan WILL do, is make the insurance you have work better for YOU"- Barack Obama

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SSJugLUsM58

That whole speech is so full of BS. Everyone I know who works for a living and has insurance thru thier employer is in the same position I am. Way less coverage for more money. My employer did not cut benefits, they ate the premium increases until they just could not afford it any more and the deductibles are the gift of the insurance company.

"Your costs will go down"
"you will be able to keep your DR."

Blah, Blah, Blah


Neither obama or any of the other previous assholes in the whitehouse has ever done anything for me except take what is mine and I worked for to give to someone else.

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Re: 2 accidents on Mt Washington March 13
« Reply #17 on: March 22, 2016, 08:15:55 PM »
I thought this was a climbing website? :o

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Re: 2 accidents on Mt Washington March 13
« Reply #18 on: March 22, 2016, 08:38:36 PM »
It also appears to be a redneck site.  Who needs taxes?  Taxes are for wimps!

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Re: 2 accidents on Mt Washington March 13
« Reply #19 on: March 22, 2016, 09:06:59 PM »
And I always thought it was skiers who were retarded.

Have a quiche, now, or maybe a tort.  You deserve it!
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Re: 2 accidents on Mt Washington March 13
« Reply #20 on: March 22, 2016, 09:42:26 PM »
Here we go again with the name calling. 

Shame on us redneck retards for being upset about the skyrocketing cost of our health insurance.

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Re: 2 accidents on Mt Washington March 13
« Reply #21 on: March 23, 2016, 09:04:26 AM »
Ya i know, everything was so rosy before o'care.

Nemesis

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Re: 2 accidents on Mt Washington March 13
« Reply #22 on: March 23, 2016, 10:04:32 AM »
I didn't mean to suggest things were rosy, just that many of the things that were said to massage the bill through congress have turned out to be false..  So instead of 5-6% annual increases to my premiums, now I'm stuck with 9-10% annual increases to my premiums. 

Also, my PCP (of 18 years) had to begin charging an annual membership fee($2,000.00)to patients who wanted to keep seeing him.  Otherwise he would've been forced to see 20 percent more patients and he wasn't willing to do that.

I don't know how you fix health care,  I was just making the point that O'care fixed nothing for my family.
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Re: 2 accidents on Mt Washington March 13
« Reply #23 on: March 23, 2016, 11:36:28 AM »
And I always thought it was skiers who were retarded.

They are...

Anybody here have pre existing conditions ?  Ever been told  " no insurance at any price"?   

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Re: 2 accidents on Mt Washington March 13
« Reply #24 on: March 23, 2016, 07:14:51 PM »
"What this plan WILL do, is make the insurance you have work better for YOU"- Barack Obama

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SSJugLUsM58

That whole speech is so full of BS. Everyone I know who works for a living and has insurance thru thier employer is in the same position I am. Way less coverage for more money. My employer did not cut benefits, they ate the premium increases until they just could not afford it any more and the deductibles are the gift of the insurance company.

"Your costs will go down"
"you will be able to keep your DR."

Blah, Blah, Blah


Neither obama or any of the other previous assholes in the whitehouse has ever done anything for me except take what is mine and I worked for to give to someone else.

^^^^^^ THIS

The gig is rigged. The one's who get effed the hardest are the honest working people- the ones that believe that they themselves are responsible for their lot in life. 

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Re: 2 accidents on Mt Washington March 13
« Reply #25 on: March 24, 2016, 11:51:58 AM »
Obama doesn't cut benefits or raise deductables, the insurers do.  Since congress never even thought about any other ideas...what's to do ?

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Re: 2 accidents on Mt Washington March 13
« Reply #26 on: March 24, 2016, 03:00:07 PM »
The gig is rigged. The one's who get effed the hardest are the honest working people- the ones that believe that they themselves are responsible for their lot in life.


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Re: 2 accidents on Mt Washington March 13
« Reply #27 on: March 24, 2016, 06:01:13 PM »
 A bit of a blanket statement IMO..I know plenty of people who can't get insurance through work for various reasons,,( my wife is one of them)  The ACA is the only alternative

Not one person who wants obamacare defunded has a viable plan to get started right now...not one, and they never have  So 12-17million people would lose insurance ?  Great, fucking idea

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Re: 2 accidents on Mt Washington March 13
« Reply #28 on: March 24, 2016, 06:26:29 PM »
Either try a free market, which we have never had, or go all the Socialist way and have a single payer plan like most of Europe.   The single payer plan would reign in corporate profits by allowing us to buy drugs for the same prices as everyone else in the world (except the US).  But reigning in corporate profits is not allowed.

Here are two example of non-patented generic drugs that Americans are being butt-fucked over:

Bloomberg-September 21, 2015

Price of 62-Year-Old Drug Jacked up by $736 a Pill
Martin Shkreli is under criticism after raising the price of the anti-parasite medication DaraprimŽ from $13.50 to $750 per pill.
Turing Pharmaceutical was founded in February 2015, bought the US marketing rights to the drug in August 2015, and hiked the price 55-fold in September 2015.
Some people will now pay over $100,000 per year to stay alive.


Albuterol sold at an average market price of $11 for a bottle of 100 2 mg tablets in October 2013.
By April 2014 the average price for albuterol sulfate jumped to $434.
A price increase of over 4,000%.*
* Available at: http://www.pbs.org/newshour/making-sense/price-increases-generic-drugs/. Accessed December 11, 2015.
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Re: 2 accidents on Mt Washington March 13
« Reply #29 on: March 24, 2016, 06:41:08 PM »
Single payer is the only way.  Unfortunately, somewhere along the way healthcare became a privelege and not a birthright.  It's gonna be pretty tough to get the genie back in the bottle.