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Title: rope recomendations
Post by: hobbsj on January 16, 2013, 08:38:30 AM
My rope got a nice core shot yesterday and needs replacing.  I'm looking for a 60 or 70 meter bi-pattern dry rope.  Any recommendations?  I don't remember the diameter of my old one, but its close to a fire hose.  I'd like to avoid that if possible.  Any recommendations?  I get tired of wading through all the BS marketing of "our super nylon and stud dry coating."
Title: Re: rope recomendations
Post by: neiceclimber on January 16, 2013, 11:16:02 AM
Can't go wrong with either sterling or mammut ropes.
Title: Re: rope recomendations
Post by: strandman on January 16, 2013, 12:20:27 PM
Can't go wrong with either sterling or mammut ropes.

I could not agree more.
Title: Re: rope recomendations
Post by: perswig on January 16, 2013, 01:40:20 PM
Big fan of Mammut, no exp with Sterling.

My workaday single has been Bluewater Lightning Pro dry bi-color 60m.  On my third?
You've climbed on it, hobbsj.  I like it a lot. 

My halves are 8.5 Genesis Mammut, 2nd set.

Hope you're well.
Dale
Title: Re: rope recomendations
Post by: old_school on January 16, 2013, 01:53:34 PM
Another vote for Sterling. Mine have lasted forever! Still supple and very manageable.
Title: Re: rope recomendations
Post by: Admin Al on January 16, 2013, 03:42:52 PM
I love my Sterling ropes. This fall I got a 70 meter bi-color and it has been great. Highly recommended.
Title: Re: rope recomendations
Post by: sneoh on January 16, 2013, 03:54:47 PM
Can't go wrong with either sterling or mammut ropes.

I could not agree more.
+1. 
My latest is a BW 9.9.  No complaints so far but does not handle quite as nice as a Sterling Velocity 9.8.
Title: Re: rope recomendations
Post by: M_Sprague on January 16, 2013, 04:43:13 PM
I have become a fan of Sterling too lately. I really like my Velocity 9.8. I used to use Mammuts, but it seemed like the last ones I got kinked up quite a bit. What ever you do, get a cool looking one. It makes you climb better.
Title: Re: rope recomendations
Post by: sneoh on January 16, 2013, 05:10:13 PM
Yeah a friend of mine did/does not like his Mammut Tusk 9.8. 
I had a Mammut Galaxy 10mm for years.  Tough cookie; I was unable to kill it b4 I decided to retire it due to age.  It does not look all that different on the outside now comapred to the day I bought it.
Title: Re: rope recomendations
Post by: xcrag_corex on January 16, 2013, 05:52:32 PM
I had a good run on a Beal 9.8... I'd recommend it. My first rope ever was a sterling....that thing was great too!!! It sits in my closet. I don't have the heart to get rid of it. Maybe someday it will become one of those fancy rope rugs. It doesn't seem to be turning into one on its own tho....haha.
Title: Re: rope recomendations
Post by: DWT on January 16, 2013, 06:12:58 PM
Sterling
Title: Re: rope recomendations
Post by: sneoh on January 16, 2013, 06:53:58 PM
I had a good run on a Beal 9.8...
My 'backup' rope is a Beal Edlinger 10.2, chopped down to 50m from 60.  It still handles great but got fuzzy and slightly mushy a bit sooner than I had hoped.  I will hang on to it for a while, for if not for anything else but my personal tribute to the legend. 
Title: Re: rope recomendations
Post by: strandman on January 17, 2013, 11:16:18 AM
Beal- Coach had one that fluffed to at least a 13mm...
I have used 10.5 mammut for ever... a bit safer for us "larger" guys,,  just so good.
the 1omm Galaxy is my lite rope, durable and good handling. The Tusk I think is more of a "bargain" rope  not nearly as good.

I have used a sterling 9.8 and it's a bit thin for me, but seemed like a good cord, pretty popular and they guy who owned it does a LOT of climbing.
Title: Re: rope recomendations
Post by: Smear on January 18, 2013, 07:46:34 AM
Another vote for Sterling 9.8.Great rope.
Title: Re: rope recomendations
Post by: Jeff on January 18, 2013, 08:11:58 AM
Currently climbing on a Blue Water bi-color 9.7 or 9.8 (can't remember) , Sterling 8.8 double (half) ropes and guiding on Sterling 9.8 and 9.4 ropes (EMS climbing school)-- all excellent, and made in the USA. I've used both brands for at least 20 years and have been totally satisfied with wear, performance and company service!
Title: Re: rope recomendations
Post by: Admin Al on January 18, 2013, 08:50:56 AM
yeah, I really like to keep the climbing gear purchases Made In The USA!
Title: Re: rope recomendations
Post by: hobbsj on January 21, 2013, 09:41:41 PM
Seeing how almost every brand was mentioned and the wide variety of sizes, you've gotten me nowhere.  Thanks for nothing  :P

But thanks for the feedback!
Title: Re: rope recomendations
Post by: WharfRat on January 21, 2013, 09:44:32 PM
Seeing how almost every brand was mentioned and the wide variety of sizes, you've gotten me nowhere.  Thanks for nothing  :P

But thanks for the feedback!

STERLING John and they are made just around the corner from you....

Are you gonna return my e-mail nerd?
Title: Re: rope recomendations
Post by: perswig on January 22, 2013, 07:00:04 AM
Finally can say I've used a Sterling rope, and it was flaunting its made-in-the-USA status.

(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff69/perswig/4th%20album/041_zpsdb692826.jpg)

Rap anchor, Grafton.
Dale

edit:  ...and did you really expect consensus from a bunch of climbers?!
Title: Re: rope recomendations
Post by: sneoh on January 22, 2013, 08:33:47 AM
Here's one to avoid - New England Ropes.
Title: Re: rope recomendations
Post by: strandman on January 22, 2013, 10:46:10 AM
And Petzl
Title: Re: rope recomendations
Post by: danf on January 22, 2013, 04:08:08 PM
I've been happy with my Eidelwiess Rocklight 9.8mm.  After saying that, I should also say that I just started climbing last April, so my opinion on ropes probably isn't as well educated as some here....  :)  The Rocklight has been discontinued, but you can still find a 60m rope on Ebay for around $70-80.  I'm tempted to buy another one at that price just to have it, I think I paid $125 when I bought mine.  The only minor issue I have with it is that it tends to "square" a bit with a load on it (lowering the climber).  Not sure if that's normal with other ropes.  But it's soft enough that it is easy to tie knots in it and has served me well thus far.
Title: Re: rope recomendations
Post by: strandman on January 22, 2013, 04:54:22 PM
I have seen the Edelweiss 70m for  about $110

Does it handle OK ? hard to beat that price... my Mammut galaxy 1omm X 80m just cost $250
Title: Re: rope recomendations
Post by: sneoh on January 22, 2013, 05:28:10 PM
80m, John?  Nice.  Must be planning a Euro sport climbing trip.  ;)
I think I will have to go down to 9.7 or 9.6 mm for an 80m rope .....
Title: Re: rope recomendations
Post by: strandman on January 22, 2013, 06:06:18 PM
Even better, a 450'  crag that doesn't allow fixed gear... none

Out comes the brass
Title: Re: rope recomendations
Post by: danf on January 22, 2013, 06:37:28 PM
John, I've been happy with it.  Like I said, I just started rock climbing last April, so I don't have a ton of experience with dynamic ropes.  I have spent a decent amount of time in trees using static arborist ropes though.  It's thin and supple enough to be easy to tie, but thick enough that you know you have a rope in your hands.  The "squaring" under load is the only complaint I have with it, but I was used to that with Arborplex too...

I think the Rocklight has been mentioned on MP, with favorable reviews when it's been mentioned.  Heck, buy the 70m, if you don't like it I'll trade you a case of beer for it. :)
Title: Re: rope recomendations
Post by: sneoh on January 22, 2013, 07:16:52 PM
Out comes the brass
LOL.  The tapered metallic kind or something rather more personal?  Or both? :)

Title: Re: rope recomendations
Post by: strandman on January 23, 2013, 10:13:24 AM
Gonna need both for this crag...80 degree bullet hard rock and maybe, just maybe   belays on RP's  !!!

Since '81 " save your ass, reach for the brass"
Title: Re: rope recomendations
Post by: Joe_Re on January 24, 2013, 07:38:38 AM
I don't know why one would avoid New England Ropes.  I have a pair of the 60m 9.8 gliders and they've been great.  My first ropes, 7 and 4 years of use.  REI, (where I work), usually has a NE Ropes 9.9 70m Glider Bi-Pattern in stock.  $240.00 but just wait till the next coupon.

That being said I also love my Edelrid Eagle 9.8 70m.  Solid light green color, middle mark, no pattern, super plain Jane looking rope but that thing handles the nuts!
Title: Re: rope recomendations
Post by: sneoh on January 24, 2013, 07:39:51 PM
NE Ropes might have gotten better the last few years but before that they were frankly awful compared to the rest; stiff, prone to kinking, and had a poor hand feel.
We nicknamed one "The Physco Rope" a friend won in a raffle.  It was always the least favorite for us to climb on. 
Petzl ropes used to be bad too (compared to the competition) but I have heard they have gotten a lot better over the last few years.
Title: Re: rope recomendations
Post by: OldEric on January 24, 2013, 10:11:42 PM
Yeah the psycho rope was bad - especially the way it grabbed your ankles- indestructible though.  Unfortunately reputations and initial impressions take a long time to change.  That's why us old farts will never buy New England, PMI, Maxim or Petzl.  And Sterling and Mammut can do no wrong.  My Tusk does seem a bit psycho though...
Title: Re: rope recomendations
Post by: strandman on January 25, 2013, 12:22:08 PM
I wouldn't use NE ropes when they GAVE me one..... I still think you get what you pay for...Eric- the Tusk is a 9.8 ??
Title: Re: rope recomendations
Post by: OldEric on January 25, 2013, 02:10:01 PM
I wouldn't use NE ropes when they GAVE me one..... I still think you get what you pay for...Eric- the Tusk is a 9.8 ??

Yeah the Tusk is a 9.8.  It was cheap...
Title: Re: rope recomendations
Post by: sneoh on January 25, 2013, 02:12:39 PM
John, having used Eric's rope, I can tell you the Tusk deos not handle or wear like the Galaxy.
Honestly, I cannot say it is a bad rope, it is just not as good as the more expensive Mammut ropes.
Title: Re: rope recomendations
Post by: eyebolter on January 25, 2013, 05:00:22 PM
Unfortunately reputations and initial impressions take a long time to change.  That's why us old farts will never buy New England, PMI, Maxim or Petzl. 

Right you are.  I was in high school and working as a dishwasher for $2.25 an hour in the 70's when I bought a Beal rope for big bucks that wore out in less than a month.

 How many do you think I have purchased since?
Title: Re: rope recomendations
Post by: strandman on January 25, 2013, 05:04:57 PM
zero- point- zero   ?