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Title: The Lost River Crags, Kinsman Notch
Post by: smartpig on October 20, 2017, 05:14:37 pm
I took a walk into the Lost River Crags in Kinsman Notch, last Saturday, to survey the damage done by the recent forrest fire. I ran into my old friends John Bain and Katherine Aldcott. All cliffs have been affected. There is still smoldering areas along the path. From the road there are two larger hot spots sending smoke up in the area.   My high point was at one of them, just after the Lower Patina Wall, where the fixed ropes begin, that lead up to the Upper Patina Wall. I did not go further as there was a considerable amount of trees either toppled from the roots being burnt out, or falling down from above. The other plume of smoke is coming from the base of the Neverland Area.
All trees up there must be closely consider as to grabbing onto to them because their roots are gone. If topping out on climbs expect unstable rocks and trees. You can see slab areas that you knew where lurking underneath the deadwood and snarled vegetation, now exposed, possibly yielding new routes. There are pockets of holes amongst the once hidden boulders, where the entire under duff has been burned away. There is a heavy layer of ash through out.

If anyone goes in there to climb be prepared for unstable beginnings and top outs. Bring anchor building materials, and closely inspect all fixed gear. Bring a saw to clear blow/burn down. Be sure to have a tarp to protect your rope from ash. Although, when pulling your rope, it may be unavoidable from getting it covered in soot and ash. Count on having to clean all your gear after climbing in there.

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Title: Re: The Lost River Crags, Kinsman Notch
Post by: smartpig on October 20, 2017, 05:16:31 pm
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Title: Re: The Lost River Crags, Kinsman Notch
Post by: smartpig on October 20, 2017, 05:19:28 pm
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Title: Re: The Lost River Crags, Kinsman Notch
Post by: NEAlpineStart on October 20, 2017, 09:16:19 pm
Wow Jamie, thanks for the update. I've been trying to carve a day out to get out there all season since I got the new guidebook and haven't had any luck yet.

Did they ever confirm the whole "meteor" cause? I heard that from multiple news channels.

Without having the guidebook handy to see where the Lost River Crags are the rest of the Kinsman Notch areas ok?
Title: Re: The Lost River Crags, Kinsman Notch
Post by: smartpig on October 24, 2017, 02:53:28 pm
Wow Jamie, thanks for the update. I've been trying to carve a day out to get out there all season since I got the new guidebook and haven't had any luck yet.

Did they ever confirm the whole "meteor" cause? I heard that from multiple news channels.

Without having the guidebook handy to see where the Lost River Crags are the rest of the Kinsman Notch areas ok?

All other areas in Kinsman Notch are not effected_ only The Lost River Crags.
Sunday 10/22 I rode my bike around the entire Kinsman Range (Franconia_Easton Valley_Kinsman Notch_N. Woodstock_Franconia bike path_back to Franconia_38 miles), and the hill side smoke was filling the top of the notch. Several hot spots had flared up with a steady 10-15mph breeze.
Title: Re: The Lost River Crags, Kinsman Notch
Post by: Admin Al on October 25, 2017, 01:38:14 pm
Quote from: smartpig
Several hot spots had flared up with a steady 10-15mph breeze.

yes, I saw something on the news about it still flaring up. hopefully this rain will help.
Title: Re: The Lost River Crags, Kinsman Notch
Post by: Coreshot on October 26, 2017, 06:53:52 pm
I read that the meteor theory was highly unlikely.  The fire was likely caused by a careless human.
Title: Re: The Lost River Crags, Kinsman Notch
Post by: Coreshot on October 26, 2017, 06:56:08 pm
Found it.

http://www.concordmonitor.com/meteor-cause-fire-woodstock-nh-12912467
Title: Re: The Lost River Crags, Kinsman Notch
Post by: RjBlake on December 13, 2017, 09:00:57 am
I decided to update the mountain project entry for the Kinsman Notch: Lost River area to make mention of the fire, and decided to make a before and after comparison, which I thought might also be useful to post here:

(https://cdn-files.apstatic.com/climb/113927707_large_1513173046.jpg)

There are also a variety of interesting pictures of the fire posted on Ken Watson's photography page. I posted two of these to Mountain Project with Ken's permission.

http://www.kenwatson.net/Events/2017-10-03-Fire-on-Kinsman-by-Lost-River/ (http://www.kenwatson.net/Events/2017-10-03-Fire-on-Kinsman-by-Lost-River/)

http://www.kenwatson.net/Events/2017-10-04-Fire-past-Lost-River/ (http://www.kenwatson.net/Events/2017-10-04-Fire-past-Lost-River/)

It'll be interesting to see what it looks like after the winter. A fair bit of "new" rock has been exposed.

http://www.kenwatson.net/Events/2017-10-04-Fire-and-Business-After-Hours/ (http://www.kenwatson.net/Events/2017-10-04-Fire-and-Business-After-Hours/)
Title: Re: The Lost River Crags, Kinsman Notch
Post by: Admin Al on December 13, 2017, 04:38:41 pm
I decided to update the mountain project entry for the Kinsman Notch: Lost River area to make mention of the fire, and decided to make a before and after comparison, which I thought might also be useful to post here:

thanks for posting. that's pretty amazing.