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General => Rock Climbing: Sport => Topic started by: Mike G on May 01, 2011, 07:30:13 pm

Title: Rumney Police
Post by: Mike G on May 01, 2011, 07:30:13 pm
Big ups to these guys for not putting up with the idiots that persist on parking on the side of Buffalo road, keep towing.
Title: Re: Rumney Police
Post by: sneoh on May 01, 2011, 08:36:40 pm
That makes me feel a little better for 'missing out' a weekend at Rumney because of a cold and kid's activities.
'No Parking' signs are aplenty so not sure why people keep doing it .....
Title: Re: Rumney Police
Post by: jammer on May 01, 2011, 09:42:56 pm
I'm sure this will not go over well, but I sure wish they would do something about all those who use the parking lot and not pay.  It's a state park and in order to do the upkeep, they need revenue. 
Title: Re: Rumney Police
Post by: M_Sprague on May 02, 2011, 03:42:32 am
It's not a state park
Title: Re: Rumney Police
Post by: Mike G on May 02, 2011, 06:10:09 am
National Forest. Beside, the parking fee has nothing to do with with people who jeopardize access by parking in the road. The fee is for revenue, a whole different can of worms.
Title: Re: Rumney Police
Post by: OldEric on May 02, 2011, 09:51:16 am
National Forest. Beside, the parking fee has nothing to do with with people who jeopardize access by parking in the road. The fee is for revenue, a whole different can of worms.

Yeah - where the revenue actually goes is a ginormous can of worms.  But clearly some should go back to the town for the expenses they are incurring.
Title: Re: Rumney Police
Post by: jammer on May 02, 2011, 05:49:25 pm
It's not a state park
Thanks for the correction, but no matter what it is called, the fee needs to be paid to support the work they are doing.
Title: Re: Rumney Police
Post by: sneoh on May 02, 2011, 07:04:18 pm
Last year, friends and I tried to figure out how much $ the typical climber actually spends in Rumney on a typical day visit.  While we could not agree on a precise figure, we agreed that it is likely quite a bit less than $5.  We figured that most $ climbers spent were done so in Plymouth, not Rumney.  I am as guilty as anyone, I do not eat in Rumney, I do not buy gas in Rumney when I have to stop for gas.  Heck, nine times out of 10, the only stop I make in Rumney in my car is the Main Parking Lot.
It is no wonder to me that we are not a well-liked bunch in Rumney.  I try to be as courteous as possible whenever I see anyone that might be a local resident.  Common courtesy costs me nothing materially and hopefully will do its small part in preventing the situation from getting much worse.
Title: Re: Rumney Police
Post by: Mike G on May 02, 2011, 07:19:28 pm
Sneoh, I take it this can be read as don't be an ahole and park in the road, or if people want to spend $ in Rumney get a big ticket and get your car towed?
Title: Re: Rumney Police
Post by: sneoh on May 02, 2011, 07:33:09 pm
Mike, the 1st two and don't forget about walking single-file, off the road, facing traffic.
Revenue wise, the ticket and towing thing will do the trick but will do nothing to endear us to the common folks of Rumney.
Title: Re: Rumney Police
Post by: JakeDatc on May 02, 2011, 10:39:06 pm
I'm hoping once they pave the parking lot they will put something up along the entrances  either guard rails or some boulders to stop the "creative" parking.   It was almost impossible to squeeze through to leave on sunday.   Also someone parked about 2 feet from the bathroom door. 

+1 for props for the rumney police.  people will learn eventually if they keep at it.
Title: Re: Rumney Police
Post by: Mike G on May 03, 2011, 06:11:43 am
As long as you were able to get out it works for me.
Title: Re: Rumney Police
Post by: M_Sprague on May 03, 2011, 07:42:10 am
People need to make a lot more effort to carpool, even if it is only from the library parking lot in Rumney center. With gas prices where they are, I would think they would want to do it anyway. Maybe the Calmpost needs a shuttle from the library to the cafe  ;)

Also, if people could get over the tendency to randomly pull into a spot in the morning, but pull up close to whomever is already there, quite a few spaces could be saved. That runs counter to people's personal space issues, but they need to reprogram themselves when it comes to cars.

Now if the Cameras were to make an overflow lot  in part of their field and charge $5 a car, I bet they could pull in a fair amount of extra cash
Title: Re: Rumney Police
Post by: sneoh on May 03, 2011, 07:50:24 am
Maybe the Calmpost needs a shuttle from the library to the cafe  ;)

Now if the Cameras were to make an overflow lot  in part of their field and charge $5 a car, I bet they could pull in a fair amount of extra cash
A fine idea and they will pull in some $ too in the morning - coffee, bagel, muffin, energy bar, etc - and afternoon; cold drinks, snack.

One Sun last Sep, the owner of the land diagonally across from the Main Parking Lot opened up his field to parking.  We took advantage of that.  We offered to pay him but he refused.
Title: Re: Rumney Police
Post by: strandman on May 03, 2011, 09:59:43 am
You sure you guys aren't talking about the Gunks ?  :)
Title: Re: Rumney Police
Post by: DGoguen on May 03, 2011, 12:17:14 pm
You sure you guys aren't talking about the Gunks ?  :)

Or the Fryeburg Fair ?
Title: Re: Rumney Police
Post by: sneoh on May 03, 2011, 07:54:31 pm
You sure you guys aren't talking about the Gunks ?  :)
Some similarity but not to the same extent.  I see that the daily use fee at The Gunks is now $15 or $17 or an annual pass for $85.  And I do not recall if it costs extra to park as well.  And the pass does not even buy you the privilege to climb at Sky Top.
Title: Re: Rumney Police
Post by: JakeDatc on May 03, 2011, 08:48:21 pm
gunks parking and camping are free..  climbing is 15   or the yearly pass.  daily cost it works out similarly  except that the Mohonk preserve is private and puts out their spending report out for public viewing.  All of the climbing fees goes directly to the operation, maintenance, etc for the preserve. 
Title: Re: Rumney Police
Post by: sneoh on May 03, 2011, 09:40:43 pm
Does anyone know how the parking fee got set at $3 per day (assuming one does not get a yearly pass)?  Is this amount uniform across all NFS properties in NH? 
Title: Re: Rumney Police
Post by: MAmedic on May 03, 2011, 10:41:32 pm
Does anyone know how the parking fee got set at $3 per day (assuming one does not get a yearly pass)?  Is this amount uniform across all NFS properties in NH? 

thats nfs standard.  get the season pass.  its 25 bucks for a year for two cars.  find a buddy and its 12.50.
Title: Re: Rumney Police
Post by: sneoh on May 03, 2011, 11:02:38 pm
thats nfs standard.  get the season pass.  its 25 bucks for a year for two cars.  find a buddy and its 12.50.
Thanks, good to know.  Yeah, a buddy and I get a pair for $25.  Totally a good deal.
Title: Re: Rumney Police
Post by: OldEric on May 04, 2011, 10:21:34 am
gunks parking and camping are free..  climbing is 15   or the yearly pass.  daily cost it works out similarly  except that the Mohonk preserve is private and puts out their spending report out for public viewing.  All of the climbing fees goes directly to the operation, maintenance, etc for the preserve. 

It actually just went up to $17 for weekend days.  But you are right that all the $$$ management is very transparent for the MP - the antithesis of National Forest $$$.  And if you choose to become a member you may have some say on that.  Theoretically we (at least the US citizens "we") are all "members" and should have some say in the management of public lands.  In reality not so much.  The necessity of the "improvements" being made or the concept of being doubly taxed for the use of federal public lands has been beaten to death on every climbing and hiking board for the past 10+ years.  deader then Roy Rogers Trigger (although I love to get Mark S. wound up about it).

One more tangential thought. If you are really looking for a "bargain" and anticipate some traveling then consider getting an Inter-agency pass (formally the Golden Eagle) - good at Red Rock, all national Parks, Cape Cod National Sea Shore and last but not least - the Rumney Parking Lot.  How much?  $85.
Title: Re: Rumney Police
Post by: JakeDatc on May 04, 2011, 01:48:44 pm
gunks parking and camping are free..  climbing is 15   or the yearly pass.  daily cost it works out similarly  except that the Mohonk preserve is private and puts out their spending report out for public viewing.  All of the climbing fees goes directly to the operation, maintenance, etc for the preserve. 

It actually just went up to $17 for weekend days.  But you are right that all the $$$ management is very transparent for the MP - the antithesis of National Forest $$$.  And if you choose to become a member you may have some say on that.  Theoretically we (at least the US citizens "we") are all "members" and should have some say in the management of public lands.  In reality not so much.  The necessity of the "improvements" being made or the concept of being doubly taxed for the use of federal public lands has been beaten to death on every climbing and hiking board for the past 10+ years.  deader then Roy Rogers Trigger (although I love to get Mark S. wound up about it).

One more tangential thought. If you are really looking for a "bargain" and anticipate some traveling then consider getting an Inter-agency pass (formally the Golden Eagle) - good at Red Rock, all national Parks, Cape Cod National Sea Shore and last but not least - the Rumney Parking Lot.  How much?  $85.

good to know..  apparently i can renew my gunks year pass and get a month free..  the rate going up definitely makes that choice easier. 
Title: Re: Rumney Police
Post by: caldergill on July 04, 2011, 11:28:30 pm
DON'T JERSEY RUMNEY!!!!
Title: Re: Rumney Police
Post by: sneoh on July 04, 2011, 11:44:04 pm
DON'T JERSEY RUMNEY!!!!
I am not 'with it' and do not understand.  Care to explain?
Title: Re: Rumney Police
Post by: M_Sprague on July 05, 2011, 12:35:21 am
"What a face, what a figure, two more legs and she'll look like Trigger."  ;D