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Title: bombings
Post by: strandman on April 15, 2013, 06:29:58 pm
I know it's not climbing-

fucking asshole ,coward ass motherfuckers.   It's a fucking road race.... if it's a political statement then use fucking politics.

i fucking hate these fucking ,goddamned cowards,, killing civilians

You wanna fight ?? let's fucking go RIGHT NOW....

i went through 9/11 in Boston, working for the Globe... no more
Title: Re: bombings
Post by: strandman on April 15, 2013, 06:40:43 pm
i just got a photo,, guy ran a PB 2;33,, waiting for his wife to finish,,, both his fucking feet blown off,, she;s OK, he is fucked
Title: Re: bombings
Post by: sneoh on April 15, 2013, 07:40:22 pm
Just terrible.
Waiting with bated breath to see if anyone we know got hurt or affected in other ways.
Some people at work were deeply affected; they knew people taking part in the race today.  Some left early to go home/wherever.
It is just wrong.
Title: Re: bombings
Post by: sneoh on April 15, 2013, 07:54:31 pm
An 8-year ago killed.  10,000,000x wrong.  My kid is almost 7.  Sandy Hook and now this?  Too close to home!
It appears that the blast radii might have been relatively small, a woman about 30 feet away from 1st explosion reported herself as unhurt.
Title: Re: bombings
Post by: M_Sprague on April 15, 2013, 08:31:49 pm
Nasty business. I've been worried about a mutual climbing friend of ours, Soon, who works as a news photographer. She usually does big events like the Super Bowl, the president etc. I know she also used to cover the race too.. haven't heard back from my text yet, but I can imagine if fine, she would be very busy.
Title: Re: bombings
Post by: strandman on April 15, 2013, 09:37:03 pm
sorry if i offended anyone (not really) But this shit get me worked more than rap bolting

Pansy ass , whimps... wha I killed an 8 year old.... fuck you  ..you won't see your next b day,, fucker

i'll drill a fucking crossbow through his heart in the courthouse and then stab and dismember the fuck...
Title: Re: bombings
Post by: strandman on April 15, 2013, 10:05:07 pm
Got my knife out fuckers.. or 12 gauge.. or I'll just run you over..DIE...how about honey and tie you up for the bears?


jet blue has $340 nonstop to boston  .. right now
Title: Re: bombings
Post by: sneoh on April 15, 2013, 10:28:14 pm
Good point Mark.  I will see if I can find anything out.
Title: Re: bombings
Post by: xcrag_corex on April 16, 2013, 12:01:55 am
You know who pisses me of.... Almost as much as the culprits.... Those fuckfaces in the Westboro Baptist Church. Picketing the funerals. Gods wrath invoked by "fag marriage" . Ugh I hate people.....
Title: Re: bombings
Post by: xcrag_corex on April 16, 2013, 12:03:22 am
Your country is fucking bleeding. Rub salt in the wounds....
Title: Re: bombings
Post by: strandman on April 16, 2013, 06:50:37 pm
Sorry Al, i meant to put it here, but I'm still so pissed off.

cowardly killers... that's it..i got a photo from a friend last night,,   .. victim had both feet blown off...
Title: Re: bombings
Post by: Admin Al on April 19, 2013, 09:30:15 am
Boston Friends & Acquaintances... stay inside today and be safe. We're all thinking about you and hoping this wacko is caught soon...
Title: Re: bombings
Post by: strandman on April 19, 2013, 09:37:43 am
Just got a mail from a friend in Watertown.. very frightening,, total lockdown, cops at her front door since before dawn
Title: Re: bombings
Post by: sneoh on April 19, 2013, 09:59:39 am
We are two towns west of Watertown.  I had to run run an errand this morning during rush hour; streets are very quiet; akin to 7a on a Sun morning.  I can't wait for this epic to be over.
Title: Re: bombings
Post by: eyebolter on April 19, 2013, 07:01:18 pm
Something fishy, these guys drop off bombs with no disguise at an area where any moron knows that there will be TONS of security cameras, people taking pictures etc? 

It may be as they say, they may well be morons, but google Mkultra.  And if you think that the CIA disbanded this program in the 1970's then you probably still believe in Santa Claus, lol.
Title: Re: bombings
Post by: sneoh on April 19, 2013, 09:10:19 pm
"White Cap" captured alive and taken to a Hospital.
One chapter closed, many more to come.
Just glad there were no additional human casualties.

Edit: I take your point, Ward.
Title: Re: bombings
Post by: eyebolter on April 19, 2013, 09:30:27 pm
Don't forget the Constitution Soon when you think of casualties.  It has been dead since 911.
Title: Re: bombings
Post by: strandman on April 19, 2013, 09:42:45 pm
Ward-- there are cameras everywhere in Boston,, for years... it's not the CIA,, it's some whacked kids
Title: Re: bombings
Post by: eyebolter on April 20, 2013, 06:21:52 am
Ward-- there are cameras everywhere in Boston,, for years... it's not the CIA,, it's some whacked kids


It may well be as they say.

I guess I am just skeptical that these kids would pull off an attack like this and drop the bomb off with one kid wearing a baseball hat backwards, as if to insure a positive ID.  If so, they deserve Darwin awards for least competent criminals.
Title: Re: bombings
Post by: M_Sprague on April 20, 2013, 08:28:30 pm
Ward, you're a nutter  ;) You have got to be not all there in some way to walk up and stand next to a little kid and young women and drop a bomb at their feet. As far as them being able to make the bombs etc., they were pretty simple and information is all out there on how to make them if you want it, especially if you go back for a visit to the Caucasus for 6 months. I wouldn't be at all surprised if there were others involved though. My first thought on the hats is they were maybe identifiers so spotters could keep track of them.

Ol' Lindsey Graham and the like really pissed me off though with his call to basically ignore the constitution. That was just  dumb and dangerous in so many ways. Protecting our Constitution (meaning us) is so much more important than a couple whackjobs, even if it means a few more casualties. Not to belittle the savagery and the effects on individuals, but people die all the time, get gruesome injuries and in greater numbers from all sorts of mundane reasons. You have to keep it in perspective. Out of 3 billion plus people, a certain percent are murderous assholes.
Title: Re: bombings
Post by: eyebolter on April 21, 2013, 06:24:10 am


Ol' Lindsey Graham and the like really pissed me off though with his call to basically ignore the constitution. That was just  dumb and dangerous in so many ways. Protecting our Constitution (meaning us) is so much more important than a couple whackjobs, even if it means a few more casualties. Not to belittle the savagery and the effects on individuals, but people die all the time, get gruesome injuries and in greater numbers from all sorts of mundane reasons. You have to keep it in perspective. Out of 3 billion plus people, a certain percent are murderous assholes.


Graham?  Obama has already said they don't have to follow the Constitution when they torture - er I mean interrogate him.   The Constitution is already dead.   All they have to do is call you a terrorist.


Look, if they are as guilty as they appear then they should be tried, found guilty, and fried.  But the Constitution does not have to be shredded in order to do so.
Title: Re: bombings
Post by: strandman on April 21, 2013, 09:36:14 am
Very true.. if most people were as gearedto defend the 4th amendment as the second, things might be different.
Title: Re: bombings
Post by: JBro on April 21, 2013, 09:04:04 pm
This might be my new favorite gif of all time.


(http://i.imgur.com/6efwptJ.gif)
Title: Re: bombings
Post by: sneoh on April 21, 2013, 10:12:37 pm
Personally, I find this
"When police officers are confronted by a concern for public safety, Miranda warnings need not be provided prior to asking questions directed at neutralizing an imminent threat, and voluntary statements made in response to such narrowly tailored questions can be admitted at trial,"
quite troubling in this case and much against what we stand for in terms of rights, justice, and due process.  I live two towns west of Watertown, MA and feel completely against "imminent threats" after 8.50p on Friday.
Title: Re: bombings
Post by: strandman on April 22, 2013, 09:14:35 am
J- that is the best,,,,,pretty agile I'd say   :D
Title: Re: bombings
Post by: M_Sprague on April 22, 2013, 10:27:31 am
Very true.. if most people were as gearedto defend the 4th amendment as the second, things might be different.

The problem is there are strong commercial interests in the 2nd (sell guns) and not so obviously in the 4th.
Title: Re: bombings
Post by: strandman on April 22, 2013, 05:23:58 pm
RIGHT  $$$$$.. i like guns, i own guns.. BUT..

The second amendment is pretty short and vague.  People literally think Obama is coming to take the guns away !  i hear this every day

i don't know.. in MA 1978, i had to take live fire test for permit.. i thinks that is a good idea  ..
Title: Re: bombings
Post by: eyebolter on April 22, 2013, 08:17:39 pm
Well I have a class A permit to carry in Mass and I had to get fingerprinted even though I have no record.  Sucks since I didn't want to get fingerprinted for big brother.

The two bombing suspects did not have any permit at all.  Looks like that law was highly effective, like most gun laws.

Maybe they should require fingerprints in order to buy a pressure cooker; I'm sure that would have thwarted them, lol.
Title: Re: bombings
Post by: sneoh on April 22, 2013, 09:36:08 pm
Immigrants get fingerprinted, Ward.  I ought to know.  And, oh, Uncle Sam has a biometric record of me as well, including retina scan.  I am not surprised if they have my DNA decoded too.
Title: Re: bombings
Post by: kenreville on April 22, 2013, 09:58:57 pm
RIGHT  $$$$$.. i like guns, i own guns.. BUT..

The second amendment is pretty short and vague.  People literally think Obama is coming to take the guns away !  i hear this every day

i don't know.. in MA 1978, i had to take live fire test for permit.. i thinks that is a good idea  ..

One inch at a time- eventually you go the mile.
Better to defend every flukin inch RIGHT NOW, then to look back on a long mile that you'll never get back......
Title: Re: bombings
Post by: strandman on April 22, 2013, 10:20:40 pm
Immigrants get fingerprinted, Ward.  I ought to know.  And, oh, Uncle Sam has a biometric record of me as well, including retina scan.  I am not surprised if they have my DNA decoded too.
Well you are fuxckin susupect my friend   ;)

I am getting replaced  joint at a time... i have no flesh
Title: Re: bombings
Post by: steve weitzler on April 23, 2013, 01:35:45 pm
The government does have Soon Neoh's DNA. They are cloning him as we speak (God help us). :D :D
Title: Re: bombings
Post by: sneoh on April 23, 2013, 02:39:30 pm
This clearly confirms what I have long suspected - Steve is one of "THEM" (Big Brother, "The Man", etc)! :)
Title: Re: bombings
Post by: strandman on April 23, 2013, 05:23:46 pm
i thought you meant THEM,, the giant ant movie filmed in JT  in that case...


BTW-- the kid admitted participation today  "self radicalized"
Title: Re: bombings
Post by: pappy on April 24, 2013, 10:36:02 am
RIGHT  $$$$$.. i like guns, i own guns.. BUT..

The second amendment is pretty short and vague.  People literally think Obama is coming to take the guns away !  i hear this every day

i don't know.. in MA 1978, i had to take live fire test for permit.. i thinks that is a good idea  ..

One inch at a time- eventually you go the mile.
Better to defend every flukin inch RIGHT NOW, then to look back on a long mile that you'll never get back......

Rights are lost bit by bit, they are never restored bit by bit.

I take a back seat to no one on defending the rights enumerated in the Constitution (not granted, government is supposed to protect rights, it does not grant them. If only we all insisted on a strict interpretation of the 10th Amendment we would be a lot better off), but the indignation of people about Mirandizing this guy (now moot anyway, he was) is pretty dumb. a) all it means is that his statements might not be admissible, which hardly matters as far as getting a conviction in this case, and b) he can still shut up and he can still request an attorney regardless, which pretty much everyone in this country already knows from the countless police procedurals on TV.

And the Second Amendment is only vague to illiterates ignorant of history. My opinion on that is that most people bring the modern definition of 'state', i.e. nation-state (which is why the fruit loops think it's about national defense), to the interpretation when the writers actually meant one, several, or all of the States. The clear intent is that the states and the people cannot have their capacity to resist a tyrannical central government by arms if necessary taken from them. More importantly, the Founders also believed that when the people have that right it serves as a check on government even if it is (one would hope) never used. If you don't believe me check out Federalist 46. Thus, even those who have never owned a gun have benefited from the 2nd Amendment. There is a reason why they made it #2, coming after their own rebellion fought by citizen soldiers.
Title: Re: bombings
Post by: strandman on April 24, 2013, 08:57:27 pm
i hardly think i am illeterate of history pappy..... just because you, doesn't mean you shoul.d

I see peolple all the time that scare me with gun behavior,,, really stupid stuff

i took a fire test at 18 to get a handgun permit.. i don't see a problem with that
Title: Re: bombings
Post by: pappy on April 25, 2013, 03:44:34 pm
i hardly think i am illeterate of history pappy..... just because you, doesn't mean you shoul.d

I see peolple all the time that scare me with gun behavior,,, really stupid stuff

i took a fire test at 18 to get a handgun permit.. i don't see a problem with that

Sorry strand, I was just being snarky. Having to deal with the insanely ignorant 'progressives' over here in the PRV does that to me.

The implication of the 2nd really is that the Federal government Constitutionally has no business in gun control at all. The flip side that the NRA and others would prefer to obfuscate is that (my interpretation of it) the states probably do and should have very broad powers to 'regulate' guns. But lets not spread that around.
Title: Re: bombings
Post by: M_Sprague on April 25, 2013, 04:38:17 pm
A question worth pondering IMO: Are there other ways of dealing with an oppressive government besides civil war? Maybe protests, strikes, boycotts, sit-downs? Would they be any less effective, result in less death and destruction and social upheaval? Looking at Syria, one might conclude that mass protests were ineffective and unarmed people were just getting slaughtered, but look at it now that it has gone fully violent on both sides. More and more people are getting killed, the country is getting completely destroyed  and space has been made for more and more radicals, yet the initial goal is not particularly closer. Maybe this idea of violently fighting off  the government as a means of change is archaic. I don't have the answer myself, but it seems to me people would be better off taking productive roles  rather than focusing on some doomsday fantasy of shooting each other.
Title: Re: bombings
Post by: strandman on April 25, 2013, 07:32:34 pm
 I kinda find it somewhat ironic that here in CO.. a gun state no doubt, that background checks have been elevated.. of course you can buy weed...AND 162 brewpubs
Title: Re: bombings
Post by: kenreville on April 29, 2013, 09:34:32 pm
Not for nothing- the "war" on weed is insanity.

Let it go already......
Title: Re: bombings
Post by: pappy on April 29, 2013, 10:49:26 pm
Not for nothing- the "war" on weed is insanity.

Let it go already......

it's real simple, if what you're doing does not infringe on another's life, liberty, or property, then it's no one else's fucking business, especially the government's.

Last I checked weed didn't in any significant way, although the second hand smoke can be pleasant...
Title: Re: bombings
Post by: DaveR on April 30, 2013, 06:12:04 am
it's real simple, if what you're doing does not infringe on another's life, liberty, or property, then it's no one else's fucking business, especially the government's.

That sums it up folks!