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Climbing NOT (Bitch & moan) / Re: Trump
« Last post by M_Sprague on February 04, 2016, 08:44:26 PM »
I had never heard that, but it may have been falsely framed by his opponents http://americablog.com/2015/09/martin-omalleys-rain-tax-is-actually-a-great-idea.html
I have to say I never dug very deeply into his policies, he just didn't strike me as somebody to immediately dismiss as with  Carson, Cruz, Fiorina, Trump, Santorum, Huckabee etc.
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Climbing NOT (Bitch & moan) / Re: Trump
« Last post by kenreville on February 04, 2016, 08:21:29 PM »
Not for nothing but wasn't it O'Malley that proposed a "rain tax" in Baltimore?
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Climbing NOT (Bitch & moan) / Re: what would you do
« Last post by M_Sprague on February 04, 2016, 08:18:43 PM »
It sounds like you did about the best you could in the situation. Hopefully a teacher or someone else who has more direct contact with the child will be able to notice and look into it if warranted. Maybe the abuse will train him up to be the next psychopath. It takes a village..
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Climbing NOT (Bitch & moan) / Re: Trump
« Last post by M_Sprague on February 04, 2016, 07:59:00 PM »
I have a couple of friends who seem obsessed with the gun thing and love Trump......I suggested that they be more concerned about health care for their young daughters....things got real quite

Good one, John. Trump is a disgusting asshole. It is really embarrassing to me as an American that of all the candidates only two (Bernie and O'Malley) don't make me want to barf and go "Holey Shit!". It is definitely Bernie for me. I am kind of surprised O'Malley didn't get a little more traction just because he wasn't  completely insane, but he has a slightly odd speaking style and the media completely treated him as invisible.
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Climbing NOT (Bitch & moan) / Re: what would you do
« Last post by iclimb on February 04, 2016, 07:37:45 PM »
I stared. I stood nearby. I hung around. Maybe that's why it didn't get worse at that moment. I definitely would have stepped in too if the kid got hit or anything. Aside from a small knife I could tell he wasn't carrying any other weapons. Wearing minimal inside plus a harness, doesn't leave much room to hide anything at least not easily accessible.

I'm not a little guy and wouldn't have hesitated to say something if I didn't think the kid would get it worse later.

I may tell staff about it or ask for the guys name so I can report it. I just worry about whether a half ass investigation will turn nothing up and piss the guy off more towards the kid. Unfortunately that is a very real chance.
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Climbing NOT (Bitch & moan) / Re: what would you do
« Last post by M_Sprague on February 04, 2016, 07:27:43 PM »
Inside or out ?  Inside i would have said something to a staff member

Outside...I would have been nice (for me) and stared at him a bit...maybe longer than a bit.  If he actually did hit the kid, I would hit him,,simple.

Pretty much the same here, though I might ask the dad "Are you alright?" in a concerned manner to maybe give him pause to realize how fucked up he was behaving, or "Get a hold of yourself. You are being abusive", but once it gets to that it is probably going to go down hill quickly. You never know when some crazy is packing or carrying a knife so you want to be really careful directly engaging somebody with obvious anger issues unless somebody is in imminent danger, like actually being choked, punched or kicked, in which case I would probably do what I could to disable them and get the kid away. Short of that situation, capturing it on your phone along with his license plate and giving it to protective services would probably the best call if you really thought the kid was being abused more than the dad being an asshole and a little rough edged.
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Climbing NOT (Bitch & moan) / Re: what would you do
« Last post by strandman on February 04, 2016, 06:50:55 PM »
Inside or out ?  Inside i would have said something to a staff member

Outside...I would have been nice (for me) and stared at him a bit...maybe longer than a bit.  If he actually did hit the kid, I would hit him,,simple.   
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Climbing NOT (Bitch & moan) / Re: what would you do
« Last post by iclimb on February 04, 2016, 06:40:47 PM »
That was part of the reason I didn't say anything. If someone is abusive enough to act like that in public with other people around, I can't imagine what the poor kid would have gone through at home, taking the blame for me saying something.

Unless of course I pinned him to the wall with some hardware and left him there hehehe
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Lost & Found / Looking for my grey Petzl Reverso and 3 biners - Frankenstein
« Last post by rs27 on February 04, 2016, 06:02:15 PM »
Hey all,
I left a grey reverso attached to a camp HMS biner, and two smaller BD biners (one purple, the other yellow). This was after climbing in the amphitheater on Wednesday. I might have left them at the top out above Chia or Hobbit Couloir or by the tracks before the trestle (if walking in).
If you have them, please let me know. I will be in the area till Sunday end of day. You can msg or text 773 949 6492.
Thanks.
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