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Epics and Accidents / Re: Cell phone kills woman
« Last post by JBro on Yesterday at 07:11:42 PM »
the excerpts from her diary are especially revealing

Summary?
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Epics and Accidents / Re: Cell phone kills woman
« Last post by strandman on Yesterday at 06:16:48 PM »
Seems like a .......now we get the rest of the story thing... to me
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Climbing NOT (Bitch & moan) / Re: The Beer Thread
« Last post by strandman on Yesterday at 12:40:40 PM »
Really $25 ??   At my local you get 11 ,,3oz pours for $9.95  usually 7 house beers and 4 guests, not bad.  I was in Aspen recently and the tour of Aspen brewing was $30 with ONE taster at the end ! Reservations accepted
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Epics and Accidents / Re: Cell phone kills woman
« Last post by Admin Al on Yesterday at 12:16:55 PM »
the excerpts from her diary are especially revealing
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Epics and Accidents / Re: Cell phone kills woman
« Last post by Admin Al on Yesterday at 10:27:18 AM »
There is some talk that she was in the Navy training land and they wouldn't let searchers on that property. Not sure if that's true, or another government conspiracy theory. Regardless, cell phone or not, she made several obviously fatal errors. FWIW my understanding is that the forest where she went off the trail is quite dense. I read that she was not very good at orientation and may have been off her anti-anxiety medication at that time. At least her family visited her campsite and read her diaries. In a way it reminds me of the story Krakauer wrote about the young guy who starved to death in Alaska.

RE the cell phone vs compass issue... I thought most, if not all, cell phones have compass apps built in. I don't use them, the compass apps, but are they accurate in places like that?

Very sad...
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Epics and Accidents / Re: Cell phone kills woman
« Last post by frik on Yesterday at 09:24:44 AM »
Cell phones don't kill hikers, Hikers kill hikers.
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Epics and Accidents / Re: Cell phone kills woman
« Last post by pappy on Yesterday at 08:41:34 AM »
This is really baffling--an 'experienced hiker'  who had come ~1000 miles from Harper's Ferry and yet couldn't tell where she was in relation to the trail? And the Saddleback region is not that 'out there', I thought maybe she had been N of Monson in the Chairback region...that she even thought the cell phone was a solution is telling.
I carried a compass on the AT and PCT and probably used it a half dozen times, tops. But you've got to keep a general orientation in mind and relationship to the surrounding topography. As to maps, on the AT I ran into a couple in ME (I was N to S) that had come from GA using road maps, and did just fine, but the AT is blazed. That was '77, way before GPS.
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Climbing NOT (Bitch & moan) / Re: The Beer Thread
« Last post by neiceclimber on Yesterday at 07:24:15 AM »
Stopped at another new brewery on way home from Whitehorse today in the Manchester area. Pipe Dream Brewing. Had five tasters - none very good. Two woulda been drain pours if I was at home. Beer is way over priced too! Instead of a flat rate taster it's based on what they sell the growlers for - which are ridiculous with one stout being 23 bucks and another 25! My tasters were 13 bucks. Won't be going back.

25 bucks, wow! The beer geek bubble needs to burst, the prices breweries ask for their beer is getting ludicrous. IMO, tasters should be free, you're trying to get people interested in your product give them a few sips to get them in a purchasing mood.

I recently toured Cruzan rum distillery, 8 bucks for a 30 minute tour plus 4 tasters and two pint sized mixed drinks, the drinks helped loosen the wallet and I walked out with a few bottles.
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Epics and Accidents / Re: Cell phone kills woman
« Last post by neiceclimber on Yesterday at 07:04:53 AM »
trail maps for long distance hikes like the Appalachian trail and the Long trail are pretty useless for anything not on the trail or connecting to it, they usually only encompass a few hundred feet on either side of the trail. I imagine most thru hikers by the time they get a few hundred miles under their feet ditch the compass, I know I never carried one when I hiked the LT. Not sure what she thought she'd gain by calling for help, if she got so turned around taking a pee, how was she planning on guiding rescuers to her.
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Epics and Accidents / Re: Cell phone kills woman
« Last post by tradmanclimbz on Yesterday at 06:22:10 AM »
I read that she had a trail map and a compase.  her journal indicated that when she realized she was lost she focused her energy on trying to find a cell signal.
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