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Ice & Winter Climbing / Re: Yeah yeah yeah, I guess I'll be that guy.....
« Last post by rbirk on August 24, 2016, 11:47:03 PM »
What's cold and wet?  Is it cold or is it wet? I also like how the weather just disappears across the border :)
Ice & Winter Climbing / Yeah yeah yeah, I guess I'll be that guy.....
« Last post by xcrag_corex on August 24, 2016, 11:39:41 PM »
How's it looking for this upcoming season?!?!?!
A lot seem to be birch trees, like this one, and maybe it was they all died in the last big ice storm (15-20 yrs ago?) and it just takes that long for the roots to rot out?
Climbing NOT (Bitch & moan, Politics) / Re: $3-$5 for Forest passes
« Last post by glen on August 24, 2016, 11:59:49 AM »

FACT: 400 million was changed from US currency to other currencies and then transferred to Iran. Obama admitted to the transfer, the only question is why it was done!

It was done because we owed them the money. Iran paid 400M for fighter jets.  The money was held in trust, and the arms deal was signed, but then the revolution happened.  The planes were never delivered and the U.S. has been sitting on the money ever since.  The U.S. owed Iran the 400M plus interest.  Iran had sought a much larger restitution in international court. 

Iran didn't demand ransom for release of hostages. They've been fighting in international court to get their money back for decades. The U.S. did use the money it owed as leverage settling negotiations with Iran.
Climbing NOT (Bitch & moan, Politics) / Re: $3-$5 for Forest passes
« Last post by eyebolter on August 23, 2016, 07:45:34 PM »
Agreed, the Waimea cliff has some of the crappiest rock ever, lol.  Nothing like that quality stone on the Whitney Gilman.
Partner Exchange / Re: 25-Aug, afternoon?
« Last post by dave095790 on August 23, 2016, 10:56:06 AM »
I might be heading over that direction.  If I can solidify some partners for follow up days, I'd definitely be able to climb the afternoon of the 25th. 

Partner Exchange / Partner Needed: 8/25-8/28
« Last post by dave095790 on August 23, 2016, 10:55:09 AM »
Weather looks great. 

Looking at some girdle traverses of Cathedral and Whitehorse Ledges as some top objectives. 

Also looking at some stuff off the Kanc and in Crawford Notch. 

Also always willing to head to Cannon. 

Lead everything, or swing leads, to 5.10.  Can follow or pull through harder. 

Moderates would be fine, as well. 



Anyone have any thoughts on why so many trees are failing this year? Or, is it a correlation =/= causation thing? I feel like I have seen more completely uprooted trees than I remember - on the trails as well as the climbing areas. Is it just because it has been so dry?
Climbing NOT (Bitch & moan, Politics) / Re: $3-$5 for Forest passes
« Last post by tradmanclimbz on August 23, 2016, 06:52:30 AM »
If your looking at under dog or Armed and dangerous and you do not see a great rout perhaps you don't really have the eye for it ;)
Climbing NOT (Bitch & moan, Politics) / Re: $3-$5 for Forest passes
« Last post by pappy on August 22, 2016, 07:02:08 PM »
Just as a side note, because I'm bored and want to stir up trouble, I climbed the ice at Rumney a good bit BITD ('83-'85), and it never occurred to us to climb the crappy looking rock. (As a side note, we also climbed ice at Farley, and that rock did look nice and we even did a good bit of stuff never recorded, because it never occurred to us that anyone would give a crap).
On reflection, I'm now happy that Rumney is a destination, especially after dealing with all the mindless gym trained idiots in the 'Daks. What the hell is going on, the crowds are nuts (not where I am, just looking at the miles of parked cars. Even Barkeater was a zoo this weekend). It's good to have a place (like Rumney) to concentrate these people, and then tax the shit out of them.
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