« Last post by fresh on January 20, 2015, 04:31:56 PM »
You guys want to chain ourselves across the entrance to the flume? #oldclimberslivesmatter
I really don't think there's much to be done here. An ice climbing guide is a great idea. Someone's bound to write a new ice guide anyway; have you seen the demand for those things skyrocketing? Hopefully whenever it's written it will include some information about TR areas vs lead climbs, but I doubt it's gonna boil down to any more than "Talk to each other, and don't be a dick."
I don't like the recent influx to the sport all that much, there are too many ice fests and not enough icicles. But the last thing we should do is to try to standardize, codify, or even influence the decisions that two or more groups of people make when they are both trying to climb the same hunk of the Earth at the same time. Each scenario has to be considered on its own by the people involved in it, and only by the people involved in it. The means and substance of its resolution belongs to them alone.
Unfortunately, anyone can set up shop on whatever they want; first come, first serve*. The result of any community consensus on venue usage is equivalent to a bunch of hens clucking about, saying something like "well, we all agree you're being a jerk, so there." And if the offending parties are actually jerks, they probably won't care. So I suggest we do nothing to change the current state, except to remind ourselves to interact carefully and with all the tidings of friendship.
*Except if you leave the area to sleep in the car. What a bag of dicks that guy was. Grammie, I also believe you had the right to take their ropes, they were abandoned in the wilderness!