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Climbing NOT (Bitch & moan) / Re: North Conway Mountain Biking
« Last post by strandman on Yesterday at 10:29:35 AM »
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Climbing NOT (Bitch & moan) / North Conway Mountain Biking
« Last post by ralbert20 on Yesterday at 10:23:06 AM »
Anyone know a good resource/ want to show me and possibly some friends around some of the great riding I have heard so much about in North Conway?

I was thinking this weekend might be a good time to get out on the trails, as the cliff will likely be crowded...

I ride mid-pack sport for EFTA (slow, but not beginner/ turtle pace).

Epics and Accidents / Re: Another fall at Cathedral?
« Last post by cjdrover on Yesterday at 09:45:51 AM »
I wasn't there at the Barber Wall but got an update from a few friends that were when we met them at the top. I also know the party involved, thought not very well. I was not a witness so I'm not going to rehash "the story", but, in the interest of arresting the rumor mill, here are the basic facts as I understand them:
  • The climber was on Double Vee and hit the deck. Reports indicate that at least one piece of gear pulled.
  • It appears the victim suffered at least a sprained ankle and probable concussion. They were reported to be wearing a helmet.

Thanks for defining team for us LL..You are so full of shit it's crazy.  No competition ? bullshit.  You think the yosemite masters didn't compete with each know what's cheating ? I'll tell you..using an aid point on a free climb

No, just because you have a grigri, you don't know how to belay
Rock Climbing: Trad / Re: Climbing was A Team sport now it's often a ME sport.
« Last post by DaveR on Yesterday at 07:46:37 AM »
And to me the best ascents are multi-pitch anything where you and your partner get up something you would not alone. Where the strength of the team is more than the parts.

Hopefully !  TC used to say "at least we both get to take this fall"

You and TC were deranged bastards John.
Rock Climbing: Trad / Re: Climbing was A Team sport now it's often a ME sport.
« Last post by JBrochu on Yesterday at 07:38:12 AM »
When I first started climbing in the early eightys climbing was a TEAM sport. 

A team can be define in two ways: 1- a group of players forming one side in a competitive game or sport  and 2-a group of people who work together. When I was climbing and will climb with my partner, we was a team. We were not competitive, but want to work together to go to a summit in good style. Some other people are more competitive. With the increase of difficulty, the climber need more hours to perform at a high level. I know some guy who climbed with a person in the morning and an other in the afternoon because climbing all day was to hard for the majority of the climber.

To be competitive, the majority of the climber have to cheat to look good. At the beginning, they were considered bad climber. A kind of war began between the trad ethic and an other activity not well define. Competition begin to appear here and there. If it is possible to compete to do a hard move in an inside wall, trad climber couldn't say climb that multi pitch route and if you died you are worst than me.

The actual sport climbing is more an evolution of the practice when the people cheat. Today, they climb very hard routes. They are done by training a move again and again. some route could take three years to be set. It is a sport where the glory is individual. After all, any body with a grisgris is able to belay some one else.

good style was define as: onsight ascent...which is not the case here; first free ascent, not the case; first ascent...which is he case...with one point of aid. Still a great climb     
Events & Announcements / Re: Denali!
« Last post by xcrag_corex on August 30, 2015, 10:42:29 PM »
Events & Announcements / Denali!
« Last post by JBrochu on August 30, 2015, 10:31:20 PM »
McKinley finally being changed back to its proper name.
Epics and Accidents / Another fall at Cathedral?
« Last post by danf on August 30, 2015, 09:07:12 PM »
Rumor has it about a 20' fall, possibly on Nutcracker.  Anyone have any more details?
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