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 71 
 on: October 15, 2014, 06:14:59 PM 
Started by lucky luke - Last post by lucky luke
I think you were trying to say that it is important for new climbers to learn instincts so that in times of stress they will do the right thing (all the boulder, sport, trad and even AMC references are superfluous).  But what you actually said was inconsistent.  At one point you say:

any thing that he learned under stress will come back to his memory

and right after that:

under stress...you loose a part of your capacity to think correctly

So WHAT is your point? 

Our mind work consciously and subconsciously. Instinct is learned subconsciously...so when you lost your capacity to think correctly under stress, your brain stop to work consciously. Every thing that you learned at the gym or in boulder will be forget to try to adapt to the new situation.

Inconsciously, you do thing that help you in the past. If keeping our mind clear is learned by beginner soon enough when they climb, they will adopt the reaction to keep there mind clear in a stressful situation.

As sport beginner learned that climbing is safe...knowing enough movement in bouldering and you will be safe, climb on bolt and you will be safe...etc. the subconscious mind will understand that climbing is safe and there is no danger. The risk of injury in this case is very high. Or people will think that trad climbing is dangerous and won't be able to climb safely.

The reaction of a person under stress is very complicated and will need solid question and answer to just understand the mechanic of thinking in trad. As people interfere just to say that they are good sport climber, those discussion can not be done.

Maybe if you told those climber that wrote to who you to avoid my post, more people who like trad climbing will be able to talk freely

 72 
 on: October 15, 2014, 04:30:24 PM 
Started by David_G48 - Last post by Jeff
David, if Old School believes you about your way to block PI reaction, I've got a bridge in Bartlett to sell him-- it even has a roof, so could serve as a bivvy spot! 8) And it's an easy walk from Endeavor!!

 73 
 on: October 15, 2014, 04:23:20 PM 
Started by David_G48 - Last post by David_G48
"2 ways to kill poison ivy and they both may kill you......an accelerant and fire may do it but if you inhale the fumes...not so good.  REAL roundup, not the Home Depot stuff  but very dangerous w/o protection"

Strandman being on the youthful side you are probably not familiar with 2 other methods; Agent Orange and convincing Old School to pull it out by the roots because while hanging from a rope it blocks the allergic reaction.

 74 
 on: October 15, 2014, 04:15:49 PM 
Started by strandman - Last post by strandman
Coming up on a month now..the biggest problem is the calf area..it's like a really bad shin spling because of muscle imbalance over the years...off the meds so no more nightmares

Walking, kinda and looking at superlight hiking gear

 75 
 on: October 15, 2014, 03:56:34 PM 
Started by lucky luke - Last post by sneoh


under stress...you loose a part of your capacity to think correctly

I resemble that remark.  :)
However, "think clearly" rather than "think correctly" is the point to be made, I believe.

 76 
 on: October 15, 2014, 02:11:37 PM 
Started by lucky luke - Last post by OldEric
In two days, I had 182 person who read my post...

Instead of ignoring it, some people hijack it.

it is sad, because many people have interesting think to say about trad climbing, but they don't because of a few people

Champ - I have defended you in the past realizing there is a language issue and believing you have some good points.  But if you want to be taken seriously you have to work on being precise and consistent in what you say.  I think you were trying to say that it is important for new climbers to learn instincts so that in times of stress they will do the right thing (all the boulder, sport, trad and even AMC references are superfluous).  But what you actually said was inconsistent.  At one point you say:

any thing that he learned under stress will come back to his memory

and right after that:

under stress...you loose a part of your capacity to think correctly

So WHAT is your point?  Maybe you do just want attention....

 77 
 on: October 15, 2014, 02:05:02 PM 
Started by David_G48 - Last post by strandman
2 ways to kill poison ivy and they both may kill you......an accelerant and fire may do it but if you inhale the fumes...not so good.  REAL roundup, not the Home Depot stuff  but very dangerous w/o protection

 78 
 on: October 15, 2014, 01:53:44 PM 
Started by lucky luke - Last post by strandman
LL- you saying that beginners get stressed ? no shit..everybody get stressed, gripped whatever you  want to call it. If you never get stressed, you are lying

 79 
 on: October 15, 2014, 01:47:23 PM 
Started by lucky luke - Last post by RCL1
In two days, I had 182 person who read my post...

Instead of ignoring it, some people hijack it.

it is sad, because many people have interesting think to say about trad climbing, but they don't because of a few people

I read LL's posts purely for entertainment value. These days I exclusively surf and backcountry ski. No more climbing. I only read neclimbs for LL's postings and the hilarity that ensues.

 80 
 on: October 15, 2014, 10:55:59 AM 
Started by lucky luke - Last post by DaveR
Guilty ? I guess..i sure don't have anything to say about trad climbing  :angel:

What do you know about climbing or first ascents anyways john? ;)

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